Mallicious Little Gnome
The Celts were a migratory race. Earliest remains found are from Switzerland at about 5000 BCE. Estimates are that they originated on the steppes of what is now Russia.Originally Posted by Grahameeboy
The first people in the UK, we bred them out, we killed them, we probably ate them.
Mmmmmmm
Any similarities with NZ history here??
Mr
"When you think of it,
Lifes a bowl of ....MERDE"
needs to work harder
Exactly. Where's the class action against the French for the Norman invasion? Or against the Norwegians for the Viking invasion?
More worrying still is the message it sends to history - or, rather, forward into the future. When arriving at a foreign land you have two choices: attempt to live in peace with the existing occupants; or round 'em up, put 'em in a field and bomb the bastards. We now know that the former course leads to lots of long term grief whereas the latter, well, let's just say that nobody appears on the telly saying "my people".
Dave
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It's speed fours, man. They bring it out of you. Something about riding a bike that looks like a battering ram from the front.
Dave
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The Celts were a migratory race. Earliest remains found are from Switzerland at about 5000 BCE. Estimates are that they originated on the steppes of what is now Russia.
The first people in the UK, we bred them out, we killed them, we probably ate them.
Mmmmmmm
Any similarities with NZ history here??
Mr
Ssssccccchhhhhh...don't tell the Maori cause they think it has only happened to them
eschew obsification...
hey EVERYONE's forebears hadta come from SOMEWHERE...
perZACTly!!! so - as Grahameeboy says, WHERE is your evidence of a previous occupier
WE ARE THE INDIGIONOUS PEOPLE!!!!!!! - the aboriginal ukers!!
...
Grass wedges its way between the closest blocks of marble and it brings them down. This power of feeble life which can creep in anywhere is greater than that of the mighty behind their cannons....... - Honore de Balzac
Mallicious Little Gnome
Every ones ancestors came from somewhere else.
Look at the remains they have been finding in Africa. 3 1/2 million year old ancestors of modern man.
Can I claim the continent of Africa.?
Homo Erectus drove out Nethandral Man from Europe, (except for in France where they still thrive in Paris)
Normandy belongs to England. Alsace-Lorraine to France and Germany, Basque territoy to Spain and France, South Africa races that moved down from Zim, the greeks owned the whole northern part of India at one stage and Italy. The Chinese werent native to the lands they now inhabit (Howick)
Even the first settlers have been traced back genetically to the island of Taiwan.
As I said earlier.
The Stone Age becons, let them live there.
Mr
"When you think of it,
Lifes a bowl of ....MERDE"
Forum whore
That part is completely factually correct. HM the Queen is , in quite different title, Duke of Normandy. It is just that the greater part of her Duchy has been subject , for some hundreds of years, to an illegal occupation by the followers of the Count of Paris.
Beware the psychosis llama...
Ahh, that ol' intellectually weak argument.Give them back the land. take away the buildings, the water system, the power and anything else later than 1863.
Make it so they cant sell the land to speculators.
Take awat the rights to visit the local pub, their drivers licence and cars, let them fucking walk
Basically return then to the fucking stoneage where they were before the European arrived in this country.
No modern schools, health service, KFC, TAB, DPB, or ay other three letter benifit.
And while they are at it get them to take those scum sucking polititians with them
Is that really the best you can do? Never mind that the crown made a legally binding treaty and flagrantly disregarded it...Hell, teh crown even made legislation and disregarded it
That'd be the difference between Maori and Celts, Australian Aboriginals etc
If you really think any culture would stay in stasis in some sort of neo-stone age, you're kidding yourself.
In your deal, how about pakeha give back all the produce they grew on maori land, all the resources they extracted etc, etc...that'd be a raw deal for both sides.
And for all those wishing to run down the labour govt and their Maori loving, PC social engineering - how about remembering that the National government have put through far more in the way of treaty settlements than labour EVER has - have a look at Te Ture Whenua Maori Act 1993 (passed when there was a red-headed pakeha minister of Maori affairs - Doug Kidd), for a piece of PC Maori-loving law. Ngai Tahu settlement anyone? National as well...
Go and read some history y'all - here's a good place to start.
Learn cheery facts like Ngai Tahu getting less than a penny an acre for their south island land, nice, fair, honest dealings by the crown and pakeha there!
Also learn that the treaty is the legal basis for pakeha government, and the basis for our pakeha ancestor's being here. It's our treaty too. I'm pretty pleased that my ancestors were tangata tiriti, as am I and all the rest of us non-maori NZers.
Mallicious Little Gnome
To England I said. The Queen has no title to it. She is a kraut. Decendant from William of Orange.
Prior to WW1 the family name was Von Battenburg. They changed it to Windsor to make themselves more in tune with the English during the first war.
Mr
"When you think of it,
Lifes a bowl of ....MERDE"
Forum whore
who let the fuckin hippy out of it's cage?
Guest
His Maori mother?
Beware the psychosis llama...
Oh, I'm safely in my cage...
Stay away from the UoA Law library and you'll be safe from infection with the socially-liberal, PC, tree hugging viruses that beset the halls of academia...
Beware the psychosis llama...
'Pure' Irish, Scottish and English derived Pakeha Tangata Tiriti here...no Maori mother in sight...
Forum whore
is that within range of grafton? say, using a decent 7.62 target rifle?
Forum whore
I say give it all back. If Maori run the country as well as they have Maori TV to date, we'll all be a lot better off.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
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