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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    You guys are so aggresive.............
    Do you think that it's because of the depth of feeling about this special day???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    however, we live in a democracy which is what was fought for......you know freedom of speech.
    Freedom of speech and expression without people ruining that?


    How many servicemen practice their volleys or NGFS whilst these people have their say at their time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    My old man was in the fiercest of fighting in Malaya in the mid'50's...he's got the medals to prove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    You guys are so aggresive.............I don't agree with what these guys did, however, we live in a democracy which is what was fought for......you know freedom of speech.............however there is a line and we should just let our free country deal with these guys within the law of the country.
    I don't remember seeing freedom of speech in our laws .. I thought that was America ... oh well I better go and have another look :-/

    "13Freedom of thought, conscience, and religion
    Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience, religion, and belief, including the right to adopt and to hold opinions without interference.

    14Freedom of expression
    Everyone has the right to freedom of expression, including the freedom to seek, receive, and impart information and opinions of any kind in any form.

    I guess you could say it is covered under these two ... but I think we have the right to express not to speech. Oh well too technical .... off to a morning cha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colapop View Post
    Do you think that it's because of the depth of feeling about this special day???
    Yes however, I am a soft bugger and just don't think aggression is the way to go....sure tell them what and how you feel about their actions.

    I mean how would a vet feel if these guys were set upon by 'deep feelings'......would they agree? Probably not.

    Don't get me wrong CP......I agree with you except for the 'aggresive bit'....hey you have seen me...I am a wimp....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasty View Post
    I don't remember seeing freedom of speech in our laws .. I thought that was America ... oh well I better go and have another look :-/

    "13Freedom of thought, conscience, and religion
    Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience, religion, and belief, including the right to adopt and to hold opinions without interference.

    14Freedom of expression
    Everyone has the right to freedom of expression, including the freedom to seek, receive, and impart information and opinions of any kind in any form.

    I guess you could say it is covered under these two ... but I think we have the right to express not to speech. Oh well too technical .... off to a morning cha.
    And these guys did that but then went too far...........and they will be dealt with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    Freedom of speech and expression without people ruining that?


    How many servicemen practice their volleys or NGFS whilst these people have their say at their time?
    I agree and these guys ruined that by going to far, just saying that I don't agree with the 'hang em' brigade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    I agree and these guys ruined that by going to far, just saying that I don't agree with the 'hang em' brigade.
    So how do you suppose you get through to them?

    I mean its hardly a week goes by without some left leaning greeny group breaking the laws of this country to try get their views across.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    So how do you suppose you get through to them?

    I mean its hardly a week goes by without some left leaning greeny group breaking the laws of this country to try get their views across.
    At the end of the day these guys are free people. Who are we to dictate to them......

    If they break the laws then they are dealt with by the Justice system which is part of the Democracy that was fought for.

    Just let them be and let the consequences of their actions deal with them.

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    Absolutely not Graham. There are all sorts of ways life can be made uncomfortable for these people and it will be done.

    Our "Justice" system is without teeth in regard to sedition and treason.

    ANZAC Day and Remembrance Day are not available for hippies to make political points and they won't learn that if they aren't punished and punished so strongly that everyone learns that you can't mess with the two days set aside to contemplate the folly of war and sacrifice made that allows hippies to protest.

    You watch a man shrivel up as he relates the fact that of a Commando unit of 238 men responsible for setting up a bridgehead and establishing a logistics centre he's one of 2 that left Norway and then tell me that the hippies were exercising their rights. Any other day of the year they'd have my support. I don't want to see people go through the sort of hell that these guys went through 60 years ago, just to have it cheapened by a bunch of beneficiaries with nothing else to do.

    At worst these hippies might get community service. Just for once Graham, you're wrong. These hippies are so out of order I want to vomit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    Absolutely not Graham. There are all sorts of ways life can be made uncomfortable for these people and it will be done.

    Our "Justice" system is without teeth in regard to sedition and treason.

    ANZAC Day and Remembrance Day are not available for hippies to make political points and they won't learn that if they aren't punished and punished so strongly that everyone learns that you can't mess with the two days set aside to contemplate the folly of war and sacrifice made that allows hippies to protest.

    You watch a man shrivel up as he relates the fact that of a Commando unit of 238 men responsible for setting up a bridgehead and establishing a logistics centre he's one of 2 that left Norway and then tell me that the hippies were exercising their rights. Any other day of the year they'd have my support. I don't want to see people go through the sort of hell that these guys went through 60 years ago, just to have it cheapened by a bunch of beneficiaries with nothing else to do.

    At worst these hippies might get community service. Just for once Graham, you're wrong. These hippies are so out of order I want to vomit.
    I have never said they were not wrong, just let the Justice system deal with them not aggression.........eek.......but uncomfortable works for me.....

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    There is no justice system in regard to this particular type of act and the laws that cover it are in the midst of being dismantled. Our current Government are not ones to admit they were wrong and will most likely pass a Bill that strikes the events of Anzac Day 2007 from record.

    Any other day except this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    There is no justice system in regard to this particular type of act and the laws that cover it are in the midst of being dismantled. Our current Government are not ones to admit they were wrong and will most likely pass a Bill that strikes the events of Anzac Day 2007 from record.

    Okay but shame you feel that way. Mind you I never vote cause I just not into it and just try to enjoy life, worts and all......I have my own battles with the Govt which you know about

    Any other day except this one.

    Agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    And these guys did that but then went too far...........and they will be dealt with.
    Actually I think they breached other peoples rights .. e.g. 16 Freedom of peaceful assembly etc that they will get done for ... I face the fact that they were stupid and should not have been there for the purpose they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasty View Post
    Actually I think they breached other peoples rights .. e.g. 16 Freedom of peaceful assembly etc that they will get done for ... I face the fact that they were stupid and should not have been there for the purpose they were.
    I agree..the Parade was not the place to air their view cause it was simply a memorial service to remember those that fell in battle, nothing to do with the rights and wrongs of war, arms or whatever.

    Shame is that globally the Movement does a lot of good......just took 2 idiots to ruin the good that is done...

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