You can't have your cake and eat it too

**Big Dave** · 27th April 2007, 12:02

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Oh sorry - thought you were a dwarf lovin' Gay Boi... you're not Dover's alter ego then?

Lately I charge to alter anything. (advertising joke)

**Hitcher** · 27th April 2007, 13:37

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

Icebreaker.

It's all made in China. Read the garment labels.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 27th April 2007, 13:48

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Utter &*@% crap. I'm here.

Like he said... not much hope at all

**Finn** · 27th April 2007, 13:50

Interesting views...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/46...ectid=10436411

**Grahameeboy** · 27th April 2007, 13:51

Originally Posted by Finn

Advanced driving schools?

That's rich considering the general standard of Kiwi's driving. Asians hardly have a role model.

**Finn** · 27th April 2007, 13:53

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

That's rich considering the general standard of Kiwi's driving. Asians hardly have a role model.

You know darling, you're actually right.

**Big Dave** · 27th April 2007, 13:53

Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ

Like he said... not much hope at all

When I take over it's the Gulag for you boyo. You, Scumdog (he volunteered) and the Mutton birds.

**Grahameeboy** · 27th April 2007, 14:04

It is sad but you cannot just blame the Govt each time jobs are lost...it's a 2 way thing.

Even if the Govt helped out you can be sure the Asian Market would react so job losses would be simply delayed.

In the UK there are immigrant builders who will do the work for a fraction of what a British builder will do the job for and they cannot compete without cutting off their own noses.

F&P get 80% of their revenue from overseas sales so things were in the balance anyway with only 20% of their sales revenue from NZ.

**MisterD** · 27th April 2007, 14:06

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Look at F&P... I'll bet they put some money into R&D. Probably done a good job and now... "bye bye jobs".

Shame.

... did I mention R&D?

Engineering's all staying here, just the metal bending and assembly that's gone to Thailand....NZ has the cheapest Engineers in the world apparently.

IMO we're finally seeing that Labour don't have a fricken CLUE how to run an economy.. unfortunately that's the horse gone, will the last person to leave please shut the stable door after they turn out the lights.

**Toaster** · 27th April 2007, 14:14

Originally Posted by Finn

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/3/...ectid=10436393

There's not much hope for the future of NZ. We're just too far south to grow coconuts.

You not been to south Auckland lately Finn?

Oh but this tree-hugging lefty govt has done so well by stifling wage growth so we can't afford homes that immigrants, overseas investors or the wealthy buy up, taxing us to death then adding on more taxes and levies, and socially re-engineering the country away from good old hard working kiwis into a bunch of state dependant self-interested metrosexuals.

Where are our tax cuts - gone to govt spending on red-tape and inefficiency - makes the dole queue shorter which makes them MP's look good - give em a payrise!... oh, I see they already did that themselves.

**The_Dover** · 27th April 2007, 14:15

Originally Posted by MisterD

Engineering's all staying here, just the metal bending and assembly that's gone to Thailand....NZ has the cheapest Engineers in the world apparently.

well then, that's 350 odd coconuts we can send back to the islands.

shame they were the ones with jobs.

**Grahameeboy** · 27th April 2007, 14:22

Originally Posted by Toaster

You not been to south Auckland lately Finn?

Oh but this tree-hugging lefty govt has done so well by stifling wage growth so we can't afford homes that immigrants, overseas investors or the wealthy buy up, taxing us to death then adding on more taxes and levies, and socially re-engineering the country away from good old hard working kiwis into a bunch of state dependant self-interested metrosexuals.

Where are our tax cuts - gone to govt spending on red-tape and inefficiency - makes the dole queue shorter which makes them MP's look good - give em a payrise!... oh, I see they already did that themselves.

Working for Family's Tax Credits is one way.........I get half my tax back.......oopsss..surely not a POSITIVE....