You can't have your cake and eat it too

**Karma** · 27th April 2007, 14:34

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Working for Family's Tax Credits is one way.........I get half my tax back.......oopsss..surely not a POSITIVE....

Only if you have kids...

**The_Dover** · 27th April 2007, 14:35

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Working for Family's Tax Credits is one way.........I get half my tax back.......oopsss..surely not a POSITIVE....

half your tax? do you earn fifty bucks a week?

**Grahameeboy** · 27th April 2007, 14:37

Originally Posted by Karma

Only if you have kids...

It is an example of Tax breaks. Suspect most (not all I admit) people who could do with tax breaks are those with kids would you say?

**Grahameeboy** · 27th April 2007, 14:38

Originally Posted by The_Dover

half your tax? do you earn fifty bucks a week?

What?????????????????????????

**Karma** · 27th April 2007, 14:42

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

It is an example of Tax breaks. Suspect most (not all I admit) people who could do with tax breaks are those with kids would you say?

You have kids because you choose to, if you can't afford them then don't have them.

I'm going to make a choice to own a big 4x4, and expect my tax break as well because I'll need it to keep it running.

**Grahameeboy** · 27th April 2007, 14:53

Originally Posted by Karma

You have kids because you choose to, if you can't afford them then don't have them.

I'm going to make a choice to own a big 4x4, and expect my tax break as well because I'll need it to keep it running.

A brash statement when you do not know my personal circumstances..

**Karma** · 27th April 2007, 15:02

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

A brash statement when you do not know my personal circumstances..

You're assuming i'm referring to you directly, I neither know nor care for your circumstances, my point was simply that there is a load of stuff that constitutes tax breaks for families when that is merely a lifestyle choice.

Where's the tax breaks for riding a motorbike? Or the breaks for driving a nice car?

**ManDownUnder** · 27th April 2007, 15:05

Originally Posted by Karma

Where's the tax breaks for riding a motorbike? Or the breaks for driving a nice car?

Demonstrate either of those things contributes to the economy in general and I'll be right behind it....

... or in other words - company vehicles!

**Toaster** · 27th April 2007, 15:07

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Working for Family's Tax Credits is one way.........I get half my tax back.......oopsss..surely not a POSITIVE....

I'd rather get a tax cut so they dont have to employ 100 IRD employees to fart around with it and send me back the little bit they have left after it gets spent on paperwork and red-tape. It is a stupid system of taking from us and then spending some of it only to give less of it back.

There is only 2 things you can do with money - spend or save and both are taxed anyway.

**Grahameeboy** · 27th April 2007, 15:09

Originally Posted by Karma

You're assuming i'm referring to you directly, I neither know nor care for your circumstances, my point was simply that there is a load of stuff that constitutes tax breaks for families when that is merely a lifestyle choice.

Where's the tax breaks for riding a motorbike? Or the breaks for driving a nice car?

You = Singular hence assumption but no problem.

Given the high rate of divorce and kids living with just 1 parent I would say that this may not always be a lifestyle choice for many so the tax breaks help them to care for their kids.

**Grahameeboy** · 27th April 2007, 15:10

Originally Posted by Toaster

I'd rather get a tax cut so they dont have to employ 100 IRD employees to fart around with it and send me back the little bit they have left after it gets spent on paperwork and red-tape. It is a stupid system of taking from us and then spending some of it only to give less of it back.

There is only 2 things you can do with money - spend or save and both are taxed anyway.

Well I get half my tax back so not complaining but you have a point.

**pritch** · 27th April 2007, 15:30

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Here's a radical idea. Lay off the MPs... the lot of 'em.

Yeah! Or we could all go on the Maori roll, then there'd only be six MPs

**jrandom** · 27th April 2007, 15:40

Originally Posted by Karma

You have kids because you choose to, if you can't afford them then don't have them.

Absolutely, couldn't agree more. Far too many people rushing into parenthood these days. What this country needs is a stiff dose of personal responsibility.