Learning to throttle blip.

[Grahameeboy]

You could try just using the throttle and gears to slow for corners and use less brake....that is what I do although I have a v-twin (oh and with a slipper clutch) but I imagine your 400 has a fair bit of engine braking.

I just find using brakes too much adds to the list of things to do and think about and you may find that using throttle etc is smoother..........

[CM2005]

try braking with less fingers to start with, then try the blipping thing. the other thing i read in Fast Bikes mag is to put your bike in neutral, hold it on the front brake and push it, while blipping the throttle, and that'll help you get even brake pressure while braking.. Or you could try blipping and rear braking until you get used to it, then use the front brake?

[yod]

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Has pics on hand position. The main cause of your difficulty may be using all four fingers to brake and I suspect that two fingers would be sufficient. Incidently I've just started practicing this technique too. It's devilishly tricky to start with but very satisfying when you get it right. The biggest problem I have is over reving on the blip which makes the bike lurch about. Practice makes perfect.

i use first 2 fingers on brake lever and the with the thumb, ring and little finger round the throttle makes it easy to blip just before you let the clutch out

blipping is easy in itself but as black bandit says its getting it to the right revs thats the hard part

incidentally, i only use two fingers on both levers....just habit i think

[more_fasterer]

It took me ages to get it right. Basically, you have to learn how to pivot your fingers relative to your palm. So when you give the throttle a twist with your palm & thumb, your fingers pivot to accomodate and stay in the same place as a result.

Good luck & have fun!

[El Dopa]

put your bike in neutral, hold it on the front brake and push it, while blipping the throttle, and that'll help you get even brake pressure while braking.

Yeah, I was thinking about it today - this'll probably be my starting point. Try to get the muscle memory bedded in before I try it for real. Thanks.

I imagine your 400 has a fair bit of engine braking.

A lot. Takes a bit of getting used to.

Rather than blipping the throttle if you're not comfortable with it. Why don't you just release the clutch slower?

I've been trying that, but I still seem to get a pause halfway through where the revs fall below the gear ratio. Then when I fully release, I get the tailshake and the rev needle jumps vertical.

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Just the sort of thing I was after. Ta.

Thankyou one and all for your sound advice.

[mynameis]

here i was thinking shaun harris was quick not a pisstake here...150-160 through the lighter corners? i can ride that fast

i'm confused....

he wasn't going quick at all....

Well you seem to know everything, and you're talking as if you know the Taupo tracks in and out. Ever ridden there?

But you can't really read and understand my post can you? Im not talking about him being fast or anything, Im just commenting on his blipping which is amazing.

Although he did embarrass a few guys on thousands whether he was going fast/hard or not.

But again if you want to compare yourself with Shaun just by looking at a video clip then knock yourself out.

[CM2005]

he does blip fast, and that vids definitely a great example of how practice makes perfect aye? is he on a 600? I've never been to taupo, hoping to get my bucket there on Xmas.

[Metalor]

I thought you were always supposed to blip the throttle when changing down?Or is it just a fancy thing? I try to do it all the time, make changing down way smoother, although sometimes i "over-blip" and the bike lurches forward for a split second and it ends up feeling similar to changing down a gear too soon.

I know I'm only riding a 250, but all the older dudes I know who ride bikes all tell me to blip the throttle...



Oh, AND do I use 91 or 96?? I'm fairly new to biking so I'm trying to learn as much as I can.

[hurricane_r]

Throttle Blipping While Braking.

I think there are a few things which most of use tend to take for granted, which actually helps a lot.

Make sure your throttle play is nice and good and your clutch as well. Try adjusting them if your hands are big, try maximum space (as far away as possible ). Use the inside bit of the brake lever than the outside as it has more space.

Timing is important so try and concentrate on the point of engagement of the clutch. I use the index and middle finger on brakes and fourth and little one with the thumb on the throttle. Basically it's developing your preference and style which works for you.

Here's a clip of the master Shaun Harris doing it at Taupo recently (courtesy of Leong), see how fast he does it you'll fall off your chair! And apparently it's a skill which takes a bit of time to master but pays off big time for late braking and faster speed corner entry.

http://www.youtube.com/v/3v8EnIYbaqM

yeh thats bad ass,, but thats nothing to make u fall of your chair, if u cant do it this fast its point less cause bikes rpm are touchy and if the blip down shit is left to long it doesnt match the rpm

also try using no clutch just tap the throttle and apply pressure to leaver when u tap throttle ul feel it drop a gear...

and try not to take advice from noobs like mynameis, hehe alvin u can barley shift upgear properly let alone a blip down shift hehe

[hurricane_r]

here i was thinking shaun harris was quick not a pisstake here...150-160 through the lighter corners? i can ride that fast

i'm confused....

he wasn't going quick at all....

iv riden with you and you suck

[Drew]

you suck

So you enjoyed it then?

[hurricane_r]

So you enjoyed it then?

he's the best,,,,,

[Sketchy_Racer]

here i was thinking shaun harris was quick not a pisstake here...150-160 through the lighter corners? i can ride that fast

i'm confused....

he wasn't going quick at all....

No, No you fucking can't mark...

Shaun has a thing called skill.. something you lack COMPLETLY!!

And i've given you a chance to prove it before.. that offer of a race between me and you at a track, with me on a 125CC bike, and you on what ever the hell you like... bring it

[JayRacer37]

What I mean is, as soon as you start letting off the brake, weight comes back onto the rear, and it regains traction. Since ya cant tip into a corner under full breaking, it's nothing to worry about. Infact, it is well possible to use the rear slippage, to tighten up your corner entry line, giving a better drive out. I'm only just learning this, but I ride with Jayracer37 a lot, and he does it on every tight corner. More so on the ones he's not familiar with it would seem, but I think that's just showing off cos he cant go round it flat out, so he slides into it a bit slower.

Damn, sprung!!

Blipping will come naturally. I just hold the brake with one or two fingers, and use my wrist action (well practiced....) to flick the throttle...it doesn't take much throttle movement to bring th revs up a touch with the clutch semi in, as the clutch doesn't have to come right back when ur on the move. I only use one or sometimes two fingers on the clutch, except at standstill, this way i still have a grip round the bars to turn the bike with.

[JayRacer37]

No, No you fucking can't mark...

Shaun has a thing called skill.. something you lack COMPLETLY!!

And i've given you a chance to prove it before.. that offer of a race between me and you at a track, with me on a 125CC bike, and you on what ever the hell you like... bring it

Shaun DOES have a thing called skill.
That wasn't a fast session though, I've seen the guy go much faster round there.
Just cause it was on the vid, doesn't mean that it was full pace.
All stop talking and bow down, say no more about being able to faster till you seen onboard with Shaun at the IOM mummy