Navy's frigates break down at sea.

**Swoop** · 30th April 2007, 21:05

Originally Posted by Swoop

The carrier was involved in a two part pincer movement against the British carriers (I'll find the date tonight once home). 25May was to the north west of the group with several escorts and the Belgrano was to the south west (with HMS Conqueror in trail).

Date was 2 May 1982.

Apologies. Belgrano was not a single ship, but was involved with a group of other ships as escorts to her. Belgrano was Exocet armed.

**Ixion** · 30th April 2007, 22:06

Four escorts I think. They tried depth charging the sub, but it was already gone, fast and deep. There was some criticism IIRC that the escorts spent time depth charging the sub instead of picking up survivors. But I guess thats what the Navy do.

**sAsLEX** · 3rd May 2007, 09:34

Originally Posted by Delerium

There has been many comments that have been incorrect in the media. Army helicopters? nope sorry we dont have them. navy and airforce do though.

Have a read of shooting from the lip. has a few interesting points regarding this and its a damn funny read.

WEll not according to Helen, her comment saw allot of the Irqs changing back from Army green to grey or white quicker than you can say

" I would throw my toys out of the cot but Aunty Helen has already taken all the other ones so I will keep these close......"

Yes a very good book..............DU poo!

**Delerium** · 3rd May 2007, 12:27

yip and in the right light they look purple too (im serious they DO look purple)

**cheese** · 3rd May 2007, 13:38

Bah the ships break down and suddenly the navy is fucked? It would be a more interesting story with some more facts in it. Like what happened exactly etc. Being ex-navy you do drills like this non stop all the time (in between the stops in port and just spending the entire time drunk)

Look at what happened in auckland with the power cut. The smallest part can bring the entire thing crashing down.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 3rd May 2007, 15:37

Originally Posted by cheese

Being ex-navy you do drills like this non stop all the time (in between the stops in port and just spending the entire time drunk)

For Exercise... For Exercise... For Exercise...
Fire in 3Echo ... Fire in 3Echo ...

ah the memories of it all

**Delerium** · 3rd May 2007, 21:39

same applys to the airforce aircraft. they get bad press when one fails to leave overseas when it has a fault. well what do you expect they are coming up to 50 years old. You dong drive a 50 year old car as hard as thes aircraft, in the harsh environments that they go and expect them to not fail. ever.

Same principle with the army gear. Take the unimog crashes for example. Everybody was having a cry over a few crashes recently. what wasnt publicised was the size of the fleet and hours of use. Lets compare the crash rate per distance driven with every other company on the country. I will put money on the fact it is similar or lower.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 3rd May 2007, 22:28

Originally Posted by Delerium

same applys to the airforce aircraft. they get bad press when one fails to leave overseas when it has a fault. well what do you expect they are coming up to 50 years old. You dong drive a 50 year old car as hard as thes aircraft, in the harsh environments that they go and expect them to not fail. ever.

Same principle with the army gear. Take the unimog crashes for example. Everybody was having a cry over a few crashes recently. what wasnt publicised was the size of the fleet and hours of use. Lets compare the crash rate per distance driven with every other company on the country. I will put money on the fact it is similar or lower.

I would agree with that...

**cheese** · 4th May 2007, 12:10

It's all to do with the old saying,

if you are a king, you can build roads, make a fine kingdom and the people are happy. But fuck just one goat.....