Double fatal crash, Rotorua (29 April)

**festus** · 4th May 2007, 08:59

Originally Posted by sunhuntin

btw... im ashamed to live here too....

What a shame.....Wanganui is a good town, esp to bring up a family.

**Patrick** · 4th May 2007, 09:05

Originally Posted by mark247

Ok, if a policeman pulls a guy over on a tuesday afternoon at 2pm for doing 111kmh, its very likely the guy was just speeding and is sober. But dont you think pulling over a car 8am on a sunday morning for a doing 111kmh is going to more likely have a drunk driver in it than pulling a car over randomly at 100kmh? Get my point? Well i get my own point, lol.

Lost count of the 2pm afternoon speedster who was drunk, and on some occasions, disqualified too... had another one just last month in fact...

**Patrick** · 4th May 2007, 09:08

Originally Posted by sunhuntin

we're not in the book either, for good reason.

while i dont and wont have kids, i know damn sure if i ever did have any, i wouldnt let them near anyone like the jerk off who caused this.
its like the drunk father who fell asleep at the gas station... following weeks paper screams that hes "a good father" [or so his wife says]
there needs to be something done, and soon. have cops stationed at every bar. car keys get handed in as you enter, and you get a slip of paper with numbers on [like a locker combination] end of the night, you bring the slip to the bar, cops breath test you. under, you get your keys. over, you get a lift home. [cops also use their own judgement, as alcohol affects people different. what may be legal for you may be well well over for me.] keys go with the cops, who either give them to you at home, of you have to pick up from the station the next day.
the downside of this, is bars will have to have parking where remaining vehicles can be locked in.

One word... "spares..."

**Paul in NZ** · 4th May 2007, 09:29

Originally Posted by candor

Hey Paul in NZ, did you catch what the focus of the campaign will be at all if this is right (early days to have formulated plans) - sometimes media put words in your mouth and lead you to say stuff to help make the story.......

Nah - just what was on the report. I'd certainly not pile all over this as it's very likely everyone will be a bit raw about it for some time. I just mentioned it because we should keep it front of mind and IF (big if) the lady in question decides to do something then I'd certainly support it. What I would not do is use her grief for my own rowboat....

It was i thought a pretty decent report and well done TV3....

I hope the guy was not drunk but..... I dunno...

**crshbndct** · 4th May 2007, 11:58

my uncle was killed while out on a ride by a drunk driver in south africa. i know how everyone involved is feeling.

i have my own personal views on this matter, which i dont want to share.

i have no further comments to add other than i hope that we dont hear about this sort of thing again.

**sunhuntin** · 4th May 2007, 12:00

Originally Posted by Patrick

One word... "spares..."

damn. good point. maybe for the overly drunk, a night in a police cell to sober up?

festus... im not bringing up a family. i was brought up here, however.

**buellbabe** · 4th May 2007, 12:02

I only heard about thru the TV3 news last night.
I cried then and I am feeling emotional now.

Just like everyone else my thoughts are with their family and friends.

R.I.P.

**candor** · 4th May 2007, 12:32

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Nah - just what was on the report. It was i thought a pretty decent report and well done TV3....

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Missed it and my comp won't play the item from 3's website but they are good on this kind of thing. Not thinking of 'piling onto it' at all, just genuinely surprised that talking of a campaign is someones response at such a very early stage - perhaps being bikers those affected are already more aware of the major issues than most - for most it is a big learning curve after losing to the toll. I guess it might be an MC focus....or DUI considered, if anything. Wouldn't have needed to ask if I could see the dang news article and get the drift .

**Paul in NZ** · 4th May 2007, 12:38

Originally Posted by candor

Missed it and my comp won't play the item from 3's website but they are good on this kind of thing. Not thinking of 'piling onto it' at all, just genuinely surprised that talking of a campaign is someones response at such a very early stage - perhaps being bikers those affected are already more aware of the major issues than most - for most it is a big learning curve after losing to the toll. I guess it might be an MC focus....or DUI considered, if anything. Wouldn't have needed to ask if I could see the dang news article and get the drift .

Easy tiger - 'piling in' is just the way i talk not even remotely having a dig at anyone - emotional times mate...

**SPman** · 4th May 2007, 13:23

Originally Posted by Patrick

Lost count of the 2pm afternoon speedster who was drunk, and on some occasions, disqualified too... had another one just last month in fact...

Well - it is Waitara. Par for the course, isn't it?

**Patrick** · 4th May 2007, 15:00

Originally Posted by SPman

Well - it is Waitara. Par for the course, isn't it?

Ummm, actually, no!

New Plymouth, Northcote, Sandringham, Morningside, Parnell, and many others in Auckland.

Heh... spelled Auckland with an S... then changed it... think I was right first time....!!!

**Paul in NZ** · 11th May 2007, 12:22

Well it's official.....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4056087a11.html

I hope Gordon Armstrong burns in hell for this..... It makes chilling reading.

Police said today blood test results showed Armstrong's blood alcohol level four hours after the crash was 92mg of alcohol per 100ml of blood. The legal driving limit is 80mg.

Senior Sergeant Ed van den Broek, of Rotorua's road policing unit, said he was surprised at the high reading, given the time that had elapsed between the accident and the sample being taken.

He said the delay was due to the emergency treatment Armstrong received immediately after the accident. The treatment included Armstrong being given blood to replace what he had lost because of his injuries.

"This would have diluted the blood sample even further," Mr van den Broek said. (from the Stuff report.)

**peasea** · 11th May 2007, 16:49

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Well it's official.....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4056087a11.html

I hope Gordon Armstrong burns in hell for this..... It makes chilling reading.

Police said today blood test results showed Armstrong's blood alcohol level four hours after the crash was 92mg of alcohol per 100ml of blood. The legal driving limit is 80mg.

Senior Sergeant Ed van den Broek, of Rotorua's road policing unit, said he was surprised at the high reading, given the time that had elapsed between the accident and the sample being taken.

He said the delay was due to the emergency treatment Armstrong received immediately after the accident. The treatment included Armstrong being given blood to replace what he had lost because of his injuries.

"This would have diluted the blood sample even further," Mr van den Broek said. (from the Stuff report.)

I'm inclined to find Armstrong's grave then piss and shit all over it.

Might make it an annual crusade. (After a Madras curry, that is.)