Cage queue passing - Experiences & protocols?

[Chisanga]

leaving the wing mirror on the ground works better

If I did that (which I wouldn't) i'm sure she would get my rego as I sped off and phoned the police ... doesn't seem worth it. Having a pleasant "chat" probably works better.

[BarBender]

Lemme guess: it wasn't some 6'6" 20 stone Samoan driving?

A Sa would have run him over Sanxie.
I'm with Boom Boom. Own the road.

[Sanx]

I'm with Boom Boom. Own the road.

Oh, I agree too. Get to the front, get ahead and keep out of trouble. But he did say he stopped to give the driver some verbals.

[BarBender]

Oh, I agree too. Get to the front, get ahead and keep out of trouble. But he did say he stopped to give the driver some verbals.

Oh dear.
You cant keep an angry Scotsman from speaking his mind.

[Disco Dan]

Lane splitting - everyone does it but its fucking dangerous.

2 golden rules
Dont move into a gap between two cars slowing down
If the light turns green just before you get to the front, dont pin it, you will get cleaned up by the red light runners coming the other way .

Absolutly! That happens fairly often for me! Get to the front just as they turn green... the urge to pin it is very huge! I try and always check both ways before entering the intersection. ...its an impatient city unfortunatly.

leaving the wing mirror on the ground works better

This practice of 'mirroroctamy' for retaliation, is becoming increasingly common. Most people will clip the odd mirror by accident every now and again, but a car mirror can cost $120+ ...some of the modern cars crammed full of electrics... I darnt think... $$$$ ...however, pushing them forward on their hinges (they dont spring back) and giving a clear 'hand signal' will often achieve the same objective without the court case. Use rarely, and wisely.

I find cars on your right (in your lane) while splitting are harder to 'read' than those to your left (in left lane). When a gap opens to your left, you should be braking.

Its easy to keep splitting and the traffic speeds up slowly... you look down and your doing 70k+ ...too many idiots out there. It aint worth it.

[Cr1MiNaL]

v good idea to be safe... even though my bike is fairly stable at mad speeds... like tdy was goin to whangarei frm auk... this v10 holden revs his engine n lines up to me doin 100. i try n let it slip n dont look... then he steps on it and pulls into my lane cuttin me off i get pissed off change into the other lane put it down to 3rd and clip it. i wheelied for like 20 feet at well past 100 n nailed it once i landed was doin 220 still in 3rd.. then it struck me... wtf was i tryin to proove? that an 06 R6 is quick? I lerned my lesson what if i had fallen off... fuk that... ride safe n responsible u all.

[boomer]

Lemme guess: it wasn't some 6'6" 20 stone Samoan driving?

you saw me..?

[Sanx]

Oh dear. You cant keep an angry Scotsman from speaking his mind.

Scotsman? They be fighting words, young man!

you saw me..?

Heh heh

[Reckless]

When the light turns green, move off at a moderate pace - if the cock in the HSV beside you wants to give you a run, let him blast out the front and you can drop in behind him.

or if your in the mood!! Give it a fist full and fuck off so fast it makes his "HSV" look like a "limp dick" (pref with the front off the ground).

Actually did it on the old 78' Z1R the other day. The old girl still gets along in a straight line if you treat it like a bitch. There was a guy in a new V8 Audi (i could tell by the engine noise). Was at the Carbine Road lights. 3 lanes, I was in between the two outside cages, with a truck to my left, so i couldn't see him. I took off at normal pace ahead of the cars to hear this engine roaring, him gathering pace in my periferal vision. Well without even thinking "fuck you mate" I'd red lined it in the first four gears and he was 800m behind. Thank christ it wasn't a cop! But you just can't help yourself sometimes. So much for your flash car mate on my 30 year old baby. haha! Wish I'd been on the Honda thousand. He caught me up as I don't thrash the old girl for long and gave me the thumbs up etc. So we both had a good time and all was well. Jeepers its times like that, that make us ride.

[90s]

All good advice here - key thing don't get seduced by PlayStation syndrome - you can burn 100k up the centre of SH1 & 16 whilst the traffic stops, but eventually will pay the price. Keep your speed relative to traffic speed, and merge back in when the flow picks up. Use your judgement. Give all cages the benefit of the doubt. Blocking you? Get over yourself - they really can't see us, are on mobile phones, playing with the iPod or can hardly see over the stearing wheel, have fogges windows and are generally idiots. 'Retaliation' only makes things worse for us all (although the retaliator feels good for 5 mins ... )

Know the law - know when you are 1) technically overtaking a stationary Q within your lane (indicating of course, legal), and when you are 2) riding creatively (ie. lanesplitting; illegal). Don't abuse the common sense approach to leave us alone when we lanesplit responsibly and indciate overtaking.

Filtering through to the front at lights is legal as in 1) but does make some car drivers mad. I'll admit that my acceleration brings me such joy, but again a little sensitivity for cages doesn't hurt. Err to caution until you are experienced and have had some direct experience of all the things that WILL happen, so you get used to responding and reading the signs:

1) drivers swerve between lanes, no indication;
1b) also when stationary in traffic
2) moving over at lights (not always to block us - poor positioning)
3) accelerating to deny us merging in
4) sudden apparently random braking on multi-lane highways because they need to change lanes (ie. SH16 where people stop dead on an empty lane to join the SH1)
5) cars with fogged windows etc 'coming at'cha'.

and

NOT being cars learn to consider going for the GAP and not braking when caught out by the above!

Ride safe. We are not cars. We should use our advantages ride like bikes but take it easy at first.

[Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)]

I'll never sit in traffic if I don't have to so I get as close to the front of any queue as I can although I'll normally stop behind the 1st cars at lights. That way I don't encourage them to a drag.

I pass when and where I can on motorways and hiways but I endeavour to read the 'body language' of the other drivers/riders. ie you can spot an erratic or impatient driver and have to make allowances. Also if you see gaps you need to assess whether or not the cage in the other lane is going to go for it.

Intuition and alertness count for everything when you put your life at risk!

Totally agree. Whenever I'm in a cage and not driving - I'm a very nervous passenger as I'm reading the traffic so far ahead and looking at body language etc. I get really shitty at my driver if he brakes hard when it could have bloody well been avoided had he read the traffic ahead.

[Racey Rider]

Know the law - know when you are 1) technically overtaking a stationary Q within your lane (indicating of course, legal),

But why would you indicate to pass a car on the right while staying in the same lane as that car. Surly you indicate to notify a change of lanes, not to notify a pass in the same lane? If you pass while remaining in the same lane as the other vehicle, you don't need to indicate?
True or False?

[Puddlejumper]

But why would you indicate to pass a car on the right while staying in the same lane as that car. Surly you indicate to notify a change of lanes, not to notify a pass in the same lane? If you pass while remaining in the same lane as the other vehicle, you don't need to indicate?
True or False?

I'd like to know this and more. I thought it was illegal to do any kind of lane splitting but that cops turned a blind eye if you were sensible. Could one of the legal sages give us a summary of what you can and can't do? On the same sort of thing, Is it illegal to overtake at over 100k? Got a cage driving mate who was ticketed at 120 while overtaking. This just seems wrong. Surely it's safer to spend as little time as possible on t'other side of road. I know how to ride safely but legally...... not so sure now.

[skidMark]

I had my first "conversation" today with a lovely lady who felt the need to try and actively block me passing her whilst she was stationary at the lights. She seemed quite suprised that I could swerve around the otherside, tap on her window and engage her in pleasant conversation regarding the weather.

at which point yo8u yanked the keys from the ignition said thanks
and rode away with them?

[ZeroIndex]

I had my first "conversation" today with a lovely lady who felt the need to try and actively block me passing her whilst she was stationary at the lights. She seemed quite suprised that I could swerve around the otherside, tap on her window and engage her in pleasant conversation regarding the weather.

Nice one man!!! Green rep sent