Farking boy racers

[James Deuce]

This whole thing is just a massive over-reaction. Just like "global warming". Three deaths (all pedestrians) in as many weeks should not a "crisis" make.

Yes agreed, but if I fall off my bike on diesel on the way to work, there will be "trouble".

SPMAN: I am aware that society won't fall. Just like all the other anti-social dickheads of the last 3000-30000 years they're a minority. Someone removed the right for their elders to kick their arse when they do something stupid though.

[Ocean1]

So, is any of this new?
Youths - check
Hormones - check
Fast cars (for the era - or horses,wagons,chariots) - check
Reckless disregard for their own, or anyone else's safety. - check
Competitiveness - check
Stupidity - check
Outraged disapproval of their elders and society, society as we know it will vanish up its arse in a puff of smoke unless SOMEBODY does SOMETHING, they scared the children, horses, me, etc etc etc - check

Hmmmm....nothing's changed in 3000 years!

"The denunciation of the young is a necessary part of the hygiene of older people, and greatly assists the circulation of their blood". ~ Logan Pearsall Smith.

Don't fly dude. Yes the young have always tested the limits of authority, and yes there's probably always been some mashing of gums and bleating about that. But the authority usualy prevailed, the traditional methods might have been unsavoury to modern sensibilities but they worked.

Also, there's as much difference between a hoon in an Anglia and one in a GTO as there is between a pocket knife and an assault rifle.

[geoffm]

If th etoerags don't bother with rego and WOF now, or paying their fines. what makes you think they will bother with insurance?
Make all the rules you wan/t, but if the cops and courts can't be bothered enforcing them, don't expect any changes.
G

[Stirts]

.....Yes the young have always tested the limits of authority, and yes there's probably always been some mashing of gums and bleating about that. But the authority usualy prevailed, the traditional methods might have been unsavoury to modern sensibilities but they worked.

And always will test the limits...problem is "authority" wtf is authority now?...that has been lost in our now lovely touchie feelie PC world that we have created these days.

Gone are the days that you would shit your pants if your father gave you the "look" for being a shithead. Fuckety fuck...mesa sounding old

[candor]

They used to use my driveway - about five hundred metres Thursday to Saturday nights uninvited and congregate at the top in a turn around near the house. They dumped a couple of cars on neighbouring sections which neighbours had to get towed. They looked pre pubertal.

When I'd go out and yell at them they did not speak, just took their time leaving. So a digger accidentally messed up the driveway. Have not fixed it as no money but the holes made seem to have discouraged their TRESPASSING much better than he private property sign at the gate.

I'm in Lower Hutt but its rural. We sometimes have the street bull lurking on the road just around a blind bend as he seems to get round his fence just there. They still hoon up our street with no regard to the fact goats and a bull lurk.

My thought is for Police to issue spikes or airguns to troubled residents. In Western Australia they have a hoon narc and witness reward system of sorts.

[SPman]

In Western Australia they have a hoon narc and witness reward system of sorts.

And with drivers who are worse than NZ drivers, (yes, it is possible) and grouchy old pricks who are the equal of any grouchy old prick worldwide, the chances of mum, spinning the wheels of her Hyundai Accent on a damp patch while taking her kids to school, losing her vehicle for 48 hrs, coz she has been "dobbed in for being a hoon", (whatever a Hoon actually is - it seems to be enshrined in legislation over here), have increased, ten-fold!

Also, there's as much difference between a hoon in an Anglia and one in a GTO as there is between a pocket knife and an assault rifle.

And between a horse & phaeton and an Anglia???????

[BigG]

Yup. Can you say "Humber 80' ....
Oh how we dreamed of an Anglia 105E with a 1600 Cortina crossflow engine....

Hey how about an Anglia with Mk2 Jaguar motor in it, leave your body behind.( in those days)

[BigG]

There are a lot of hoons on bikes and day aint so young. Just have a look when they take their helmits off.
These young people in their cars arn't looking for a controled and well run venue, its the risk factor and the excitment of getting away from the authoreties, there are some complete idiots as there are on bikes that just stuff it up for the others. Fines meen nothing, they just tick them up and drip feed the Justice department.

[Ocean1]

And with drivers who are worse than NZ drivers, (yes, it is possible) and grouchy old pricks who are the equal of any grouchy old prick worldwide, the chances of mum, spinning the wheels of her Hyundai Accent on a damp patch while taking her kids to school, losing her vehicle for 48 hrs, coz she has been "dobbed in for being a hoon", (whatever a Hoon actually is - it seems to be enshrined in legislation over here), have increased, ten-fold!

Oh yeah, I spend quite a bit of time in WA, you’re right, the driving skills are abysmal. Perhaps it’s the fact that the roads are all straight. Typical reaction to a corner seems to be “Oh my god, a corner… panic… stop… wtf do I do now”

One difference is immediately evident though: the cops mean business. More corrupt maybe, certainly just as likely to bend the rules to do you if you look sideways at ‘em too long. Serious crime’s probably no better than here either, but the casual and routine transgressions seem to be way less.

I was up near shark bay couple of years ago, launching a boat for a spot of fishing when some dude came ashore with a pink snapper a couple of inches under the limit. He lost his boat, for good. We measured our catch carefully.

And between a horse & phaeton and an Anglia???????

Dude it's a Ford, a ickle baby Ford, weighed less than a horse and weren’t as fast. Make your own analogy.

[Patrick]

Unfortunately, these young blokes, have no where else to go. With the Illegal Drag and Street Racing Amendment Bill, the cops snap them everytime. So what happens? They bite back. By doing this, it is a game to them, trying to run from the cops and laughing at the old people coming out and waving their fingers at them.

It has been suggested, many, many, many times before... a purpose built burnout pad, organised racing with emergency services supplied etc etc but... user pays and these tuggers don't want to pay $10 to use it, openly giving those who offer to help th emiddle finger salute and say "we do it when we like, where we like, for free..."

Attitudes like that is what the problem is... help is offered, but flatly (and offensively) refused, so why bother? Harsher penalties will follow soon...

[Patrick]

They've no where to go!

What the fuck is Meremere drag strip then?

I didn't feel the need to drive a car until I was 32 - and even then it was a 1 litre VW.

I got all my horsepower from my body - Cycling and Triathlon - I was never a petrol head - guess my dick must be too big and I didn't need the compensation.

Cars are a part of Kiwi Culture? Cars hadn't even been invented when Cook landed!

How many brands of car are currently manufactured in NZ?

Must spread more love... Bwahahahahahahahahahaha

[Patrick]

So, is any of this new?
Fast cars (for the era - or horses,wagons,chariots) -

Mitsi Chariots??? Fast cars??? Huh???

[Patrick]

, the chances of mum, spinning the wheels of her Hyundai Accent on a damp patch while taking her kids to school, losing her vehicle for 48 hrs, coz she has been "dobbed in for being a hoon", (whatever a Hoon actually is - it seems to be enshrined in legislation over here), have increased, ten-fold!

I feel a sneeze coming on.... Ah...ahhhh.....aaahhhhhh....BULLSHIT!!!!!!!

Two words... "sustained' and "deliberate"....

Mum doing a little skiddie on her hillstart does not and never has applied...

[slinky]

Topic still on compulsary insurance? cudn't be bothered reading the whole thing.
that won't physically stop them driving the cars.
its just another law to be broken.

[Grahameeboy]

It has been suggested, many, many, many times before... a purpose built burnout pad, organised racing with emergency services supplied etc etc but... user pays and these tuggers don't want to pay $10 to use it, openly giving those who offer to help th emiddle finger salute and say "we do it when we like, where we like, for free..."

Attitudes like that is what the problem is... help is offered, but flatly (and offensively) refused, so why bother? Harsher penalties will follow soon...

I guess in some ways we are not so innocent.....we are just able to enjoy our bikes on the road....I mean we bomb along everywhere, overtaking cars.

These guys just want to enjoy what they love like we do and although they are wrong, they end up finding places where they can do their stuff but it affects other people whereas what we do does not so much.

With all these car parks...Sylvia Park being one....how about organised nights...okay, it's a car park but better than elsewhere............

Just my sixpence worth