Mechanical/restoration supervision sought

[Dodgyiti]

Every motor I have done has said either in the manual or after market spares instructions -the number or letter on the ring goes uppermost to the piston crown. Perhaps it is not 100% in every case, it is fairly good odds it will be the same.

Bike is looking good, it will be a real nice example when you get it how you want it.


The '82 GSX had a nice seat/tail/fairing, and the second pic is the Yank version of yours I think, in poo brown no less but the front and rear guards in chrome or stainless is neat.

[pete376403]

The bike in the second pic is a 750 or 1000 L - cruiser style thing. Quite different to the standard bike - longer forks, tiny tank, king'n'queen seat, fat back wheel. I bought a wrecked 1000 L hoping to salvage parts for my GS1100GK, but there wasn't that much that was a straight swap.
I've a good 1000L seat if anyones looking, and some pretty good standard mufflers.
Ivor, sorry I haven't got those head bolts out for you yet, if you still need them I'll get them to you in the next couple of days.

[pete376403]

as always, help much appreciated...

1.
the service manual says to fit the two top rings so that the stamped letter "R" faces the top
my rings are aftermarket and stamped "N"

• do i still follow the same logic?

2.
the photo below shows the cross section of the original two top rings
my second ring however (to my eye) is square in the cross section (and not angled as in the photo)

• does that matter at all?

cheers

Gettig the rings the correct way up is the difrenece between a good running engine and an oil pump.
these guys http://www.racetep.com/totalsealframe.html
suggest this:

[jonbuoy]

On the Honda all the markings have to face up - N is for normal and I think R is regular - pretty much same thing, if they have a number - it would mean they were oversize rings.

[psyguy]

Gettig the rings the correct way up is the difrenece between a good running engine and an oil pump.
these guys http://www.racetep.com/totalsealframe.html
suggest this:

thanks pete
as per the service manual and your info, my top rings are "barrel face" and second rings are "taper face". however, the cross-section of the second ring doesn't apear tappered (but square) - well, at least to the naked eye.
so, i'll follow the logic of fitting the rings the stamped side upwards.
hopefully, i don't make an oil pump but a good running engine!

[Alive]

I see you're making progress... Good stuff

[psyguy]

I see you're making progress... Good stuff

yup, thanks, should post a progress report in the next few days, have all the parts now except the airbox boots (they're somewhere over the pacific right now, i think )

[psyguy]

I've a good 1000L seat if anyones looking, and some pretty good standard mufflers.
Ivor, sorry I haven't got those head bolts out for you yet, if you still need them I'll get them to you in the next couple of days.

hi pete, have you got just the mufflers, or the whole set maybe?

as for the head bolts, as i posted earlier, i bought some new flange bolts so i'm fine for now. however, the originals look better so i'll talk to you when i get the specs/measurements. thanks

[psyguy]

On the Honda all the markings have to face up - N is for normal and I think R is regular - pretty much same thing, if they have a number - it would mean they were oversize rings.

great! i struggled figuring out what that "R" might mean. english not being my first language didn't help ...
i installed the rings with the markings facing up

[psyguy]

hi dodgyiti, thanks for coming over

Every motor I have done has said either in the manual or after market spares instructions -the number or letter on the ring goes uppermost to the piston crown. Perhaps it is not 100% in every case, it is fairly good odds it will be the same.

yeah, i'll have to count on those odds!

front and rear guards in chrome or stainless is neat.

yes, i like the chrome rear guard, but unfortunately it's not a straight swap...

[Dodgyiti]

The bike in the second pic is a 750 or 1000

It was on USA Ebay listed as a 1982 GS850Z which made me think that parts would be interchangable as to their frame mountings etc. I realise the Japs changed their bikes pretty much every model designation and sometimes inbetween.
It even says it on the sidecover in the picture GS850Z, but it is a USA model, probably never made it here anyway. The rake on the front looks a little more than 'I's bike, otherwise I guestimate the tank to be pretty much the same, but it was the front and rear guards I liked.

Psyguy's bikes got a fat arse

[Alive]

yup, thanks, should post a progress report in the next few days, have all the parts now except the airbox boots (they're somewhere over the pacific right now, i think )

How long before you're ready for the firstride?

[psyguy]

How long before you're ready for the firstride?

there's not that much work left, a few hours maybe, but i'm quite busy at the moment so don't know when i'll have the time to finish it.
couple of weeks?

[psyguy]

It was on USA Ebay listed as a 1982 GS850Z which made me think that parts would be interchangable as to their frame ...
It even says it on the sidecover in the picture GS850Z, but it is a USA model, probably never made it here anyway...

well, the letter on the sidecover badge does resemble a "Z" but it's actually an "L"
if it was advertised as a "Z" that's because suzuki's year code for 1982 is "Z"
the engine is the same as on my bike, but the tank, seat, frame, forks, peg mounts, etc are all different
the usa model isn't that different to models for other markets except for the air forks, differently tuned carbs and minor difference in the electrics (and the speedo is obviously in miles)

yup, i've done my research

Psyguy's bikes got a fat arse

???

[Alive]

there's not that much work left, a few hours maybe, but i'm quite busy at the moment so don't know when i'll have the time to finish it.
couple of weeks?

Sweet... PM me or give me a call and we'll go for a ride.