Cat shit

**MotoGirl** · 26th May 2007, 17:34

I'm with the others - back to the kitty litter. I always put any kittens in the kitty litter before I left home and tried to persuade them to go. At least if they didn't use it at the time, they knew where it was for later.

Whatever you do, don't put kitty outside while you're out! I reluctantly left one of mine out because she was climbing on the roof and I couldn't get her down. Later that day I got a phonecall from my flatmate saying her boyfriend's dog had torn my kitten to shreds and she was fighting for her life at the vet clinic.

**Krusti** · 26th May 2007, 17:57

Yeah ....visions of crashe feeding her kittens....noooooooooooooo

**Beemer** · 26th May 2007, 18:12

Unfortunately you'll just have to persevere - we got a kitten from the SPCA two years ago and she never went anywhere but the litter box. Got a brother and sister from the same litter from a rescue shelter last year and for more than a month they would toilet in inappropriate places - behind the tv, on the stereo cables, in their play tunnels and beds, on clothing, in the laundry basket (of clean clothes - bastards!) - mostly peeing but once the male shat in the older cat's bed! We just cleaned it up immediately using warm water with a teaspoon of dishwashing liquid and a bit of white vinegar in it. They seemed to be fixated on the wires and cables though, so we had to put something on top of them to stop them as they kept returning there, no matter how many times we cleaned it up. They always had clean litter and it was in a convenient spot, and sometimes they would go a week or more without any accidents and then it would start again. We just kept cleaning it up and kept a close eye on them whenever they were inside and after a while they stopped.

DO NOT EVER rub an animal's nose in their excrement, not only does it not work, even if you get it immediately after doing its business in the wrong spot, but it is extremely cruel and nasty. Would you do that to a baby? Because that is exactly what a kitten or a puppy is in terms of its development. It's like yelling at it - all that will happen is the animal becomes scared of you.

Ours also had a problem with their tummies and the vet put them on dry biscuits (proper ones from the vet) only and it cleared up in a few days.

I agree that young kittens should not be left outside when no one is home as they can easily be attacked or wander off. I just wish more people would realise they aren't self-sufficient and need as much love and nurturing as human babies - but they are much cuter!

If you want any more advice, PM me.

**98tls** · 26th May 2007, 18:26

Gotta dis-agree there........it does work..............and my dog or any other of the dogs ive owned has never been scared of me............no point in saying it doesnt work..............it does........

**Donor** · 26th May 2007, 18:39

Smear it on ya visor to prevent fogging...

**Patrick** · 26th May 2007, 20:07

Check the free to good home section, and when you have found one... let this crappy one play with the neighbours Pit Bull and get the newbie......

Nah... just kidding.. rubbing noses in it definitely works...

But the easiest solution is... give it a litter box?????

**scracha** · 26th May 2007, 22:07

Fookin hell....I'm genuinely flabbergasted at the response.

We've had the girly (Poon) since she was 2 weeks old. We had her off the special kitty milk at 9 weeks and she seems fine, if a little small. Go another one (Tang) of similar age a couple of weeks ago to keep her company and he's a holy terror.

We've just started letting them explore the garden last few days but they're not brave enough to go far. I think this co-incides with him starting to shit in the corner instead of using the kitty litter. He was fine the first week and a half. "Hmm..I can crap outside so the carpet looks a good idea too?". Will the cats have problems if we move the kitty litter to a new location? He crapped in one corner so I blocked it. He then crapped in another corner so I put a magazine there (one of the missus's horse ones, wouldn't want to risk someone's Suzuki getting $hat on) thinking that at best it'd put him off $hitting there and at worst he'd just shit on the magazine. The little @$cker just shat next to the magazine.

I don't know much about cats [*1] but even if I agreed with rubbing noses in $hite we've never caught him in the act so he'd have no idea why the hell he's being punished. I know some dogs get abandonment anxiety but I dunno if cats do.

Hmm...funny you should mention wires as the new one's also chewed through the wires on my telly recording top box thingie. Pepper was considered, I know it doesn't do lasting damage to doggies but again, didn't know if it was a good idea with the cats. I'll put some near the TV etc if he does it again or keeps chewing as I'm more worried about him eating through a 240v cable than anything else.

How'd you give a cat a row anyway? They're not like dogs...they don't seem to give a f$ck about pleasing their owners. Pushing him away or shouting at him just seems to stop him for a few seconds then he's back doing it again. Be glad when the little sods out chasing rats and mice in a few more weeks.

I'll get my revenge when his yet to drop baws get lopped off in a few months tho.

[1] Family back in blighty are dog trainers and the nose rubbing $hite thing is not a good idea. But like I said, I no nowt about cats. Not a "cat person", only got them as the farmer next door has lopped his field and the garage is over-run with rats and mice.

**Beemer** · 26th May 2007, 23:11

Originally Posted by 98tls

Gotta dis-agree there........it does work..............and my dog or any other of the dogs ive owned has never been scared of me............no point in saying it doesnt work..............it does........

You might think it 'works' but they probably got sick of doing it and stopped of their own accord. But by all means, please top up the population by having children and see if that kind of behaviour modification works with them too.

The neighbour across the road (the man from Swazi) has a young female kitten who is a holy terror. Her name is Jeffrey (true, she was named before they found out 'he' was a girl!) and she comes over and has a go at all of our cats. I wonder if that was what created a bit of trouble at the start - they were too scared to go outside. Even when we moved the litterbox by the front door they would still pee in the lounge, only about 20 feet away.

I'm not sure how effective pepper is but we were told to try mothballs (napthalene flakes). They stank to high heaven and unfortunately didn't deter the cats in the slightest - they scratched them to one side and peed where they were!

I can't remember how old they were when they stopped but they are eight months old now and I'm pretty sure they stopped before Christmas - so they were fine by the age of about three months I think.

**98tls** · 26th May 2007, 23:19

Originally Posted by Beemer

You might think it 'works' but they probably got sick of doing it and stopped of their own accord. But by all means, please top up the population by having children and see if that kind of behaviour modification works with them too.

The neighbour across the road (the man from Swazi) has a young female kitten who is a holy terror. Her name is Jeffrey (true, she was named before they found out 'he' was a girl!) and she comes over and has a go at all of our cats. I wonder if that was what created a bit of trouble at the start - they were too scared to go outside. Even when we moved the litterbox by the front door they would still pee in the lounge, only about 20 feet away.

I'm not sure how effective pepper is but we were told to try mothballs (napthalene flakes). They stank to high heaven and unfortunately didn't deter the cats in the slightest - they scratched them to one side and peed where they were!

I can't remember how old they were when they stopped but they are eight months old now and I'm pretty sure they stopped before Christmas - so they were fine by the age of about three months I think.

nice try but no...............ive a much loved Border Collie called Mac who learnt after the first go............no idea why you wont accept this but for the last time..........."it works"........if not for you fine.....but dont give an opinion on a public forum whilst at the same time making it sound as fact.........as my post way back........it works..........i know this because ive seen it work..........

**Beemer** · 27th May 2007, 09:56

Originally Posted by 98tls

nice try but no...............ive a much loved Border Collie called Mac who learnt after the first go............no idea why you wont accept this but for the last time..........."it works"........if not for you fine.....but dont give an opinion on a public forum whilst at the same time making it sound as fact.........as my post way back........it works..........i know this because ive seen it work..........

Excuse me, but the 'fact' it worked for you means sweet FA - talk to 100 people and you'll find more people who say it doesn't work than who say it does. You're a bloody hypocrite telling me not to give an opinion on a public forum while making it sound like fact when that is exactly what you are doing!

We're not going to agree on this matter so why don't we leave it at that? Your views and opinions are no more or less valid than mine - they are just different. That's life.

**98tls** · 27th May 2007, 10:03

Originally Posted by Beemer

Excuse me,

I imagine you say that a lot.....................

**Beemer** · 27th May 2007, 10:04

Originally Posted by 98tls

I imagine you say that a lot.....................

Only when dealing with morons, why do you ask?

**98tls** · 27th May 2007, 10:15

Originally Posted by Beemer

Only when dealing with morons, why do you ask?

Ha HA not only opinionated but unimaginative to boot............either you have had your nosed rubbed in a lot of shit or your going through the change of life...............big breath now.........and let it goooooo..your boring me......bye.