Spying? What spying?

[avgas]

Yep i completely agree. I used to be a mega-greenie before. But i realised a few years ago - that i would rather give my money to someone who actually gives a fuck about this world. Not some promo-bullshit company.
Another classic is the salvation army - anyone seen their head office in QUEEN ST!!!
Not to mention the 10's of millions of dollars of investment property they own here too!!!

[The Stranger:Me]

But i realised a few years ago - that i would rather give my money to someone who actually gives a fuck about this world.

So who did you find that give a fuck about this world?

[peasea]

Glad I wasn't the only one who turned to hubby and said, "This is news....... why?"
YAWN another slow news day hm? And to make it worse, it was the lead item on the telly news.....

Quite right, wasn't there an expired parking meter they could have interviewed?

[SPman]

I quite like Sea Shepherd, who go out sinking illegal whaling boats and play dodgems with the Jap whalers.......

[peasea]

So who did you find that give a fuck about this world?

......and was that person an Asian?

[James Deuce]

The difference being that the frigate was well and truly out of harms way while Greenpeace were dogging the frog navy inside the hot zone

Never forget that Greenpeace are happy to photoshop images of events that never happened and then go, "Oh yeah heehee, we weren't there after all. Teehee. Our mistake. Move along, nothing to see here."

It was Greenpeace III you were thinking of and David McTaggart, one of the founders of Greenpeace, was the guy that the French beat up. Now pardon me for saying it, didn't we want to incarcerate some French Government employees for breaching our border illegally? He was bloody lucky the French didn't just sink the Greenpeace III for entering French territorial waters illegally and leave the crew to the fishies.

[Mental Trousers]

Solid Energy are a state-owned company, so as a shareholder I'd be calling for the resignation of the CEO if he had not taken such simple prudent steps to protect the company.

I say he should resign as this has gone public. If you're going to gather information in a way that is almost industrial espionage then you sure as shit better not get caught.

[The Pastor]

Give me a 12 guage, chainsaw and a balacalva. I'll get rid of your protesters for you.

[ali]

It's a bloody interesting debate, noboby can say that motorcyclists can't string a decent sentence together.

What does the S.I.S do ? ( we fund them )

Would this be an issue if Labour did not need the Green vote ? ( John Key is also more politically savvy than his predecessor )

It should be anyones right to protest ( otherwise N.Z actually becomes the dictatorship half the poulation think it is).

Watched this make headline news again tonight, my nine year old has less naievity than our bearded brothers, how the hell did solid energy get screwed over the "giant snails " ( or whatever they were ) by these people ?

[peasea]

I had hands-on dealings with GP years ago when unleaded petrol reared its ugly head. They were full of shite, didn't know the facts and when I contacted their head honcho of the day I was informed that GP had "moved on" and "weren't concentrating on transport issues".

Unleaded fuel, burnt in an internal combustion engine without a catalytic converter fitted is more dangerous to anything, or anyone, than leaded fuel ever was. It's carcinogenic.

Thanks GP, you're saving us from............fuck all.

[Flatcap]

I say he should resign as this has gone public. If you're going to gather information in a way that is almost industrial espionage then you sure as shit better not get caught.

Pah! - This is the same as the Police using paid informants to infiltrate gangs.

[Mental Trousers]

Pah! - This is the same as the Police using paid informants to infiltrate gangs.

That isn't Industrial Espionage. It's for Law Enforcement purposes.

[James Deuce]

It can't be Industrial espionage if you're hiring PIs to watch private citizens who've threatened to damage equipment your own and hurt people you employ. As far as I know the people protesting against Solid Energy aren't involved in any industry except the one where tax payers pay them to setup faux-Green oriented money collection "charities".

[marty]

here's some examples of industrial spying:

an Air NZ employee gets paid to fly on competitor airlines to sample/experience their service - feeds back to the Air NZ bosses how to improve.

a bar manager goes out to a competitor bar in the evening to sample/experience service - feeds back to the boss.

a hotelier purchases a night at a competitor to sample the service. modifies their hotel as a result.

they are all forms of spying.

the best comment on here yet is about the solid energy minnow that goes to GP and says 'for $100 i'll tell you what the plans are for machinery security' - would GP refuse? i doubt it.

[Mental Trousers]

It can't be Industrial espionage if you're hiring PIs to watch private citizens who've threatened to damage equipment your own and hurt people you employ. As far as I know the people protesting against Solid Energy aren't involved in any industry except the one where tax payers pay them to setup faux-Green oriented money collection "charities".

yup, I know. But Industrial Espionage comes closest to this. I can't think of another term that will cover it.