Move over Hyosung, here come the Chinese

[Coyote]

Now did the europs actually design this? Don't think we can trust such a claim considering 13kw isn't really racing power

[vamr]

Just looked over the specs... 13KW and 166KG dry? That's a bit steep, and then it goes downhill, when you see ZS250GS, which is actually read over-weight underpowered two hundred and thirty cubic centimeter engine, marketed and labeled as a two hundred and fifty cubic centimeter motorcycle.

And WHAT is up with the USDs and twin front brakes? Do they really think the bike is that powerful that it needs two front discs to stop the thing, or are the brakes THAT shocking?

Um, if it states that it's 230cc in the specs that's hardly marketing it as a 250, wouldn't you say? And you may want to check out the likes of Honda CB250 Nighthawk, Yamaha SR 250 etc..

Performance wise it's very basic but 13kw is a stone's throw from the likes of Yamaha Virago, Kawasaki BJ 250, Honda Rebel or Suzuki VL 250.

I think it's not bad as a new comer.

[xwhatsit]

That's about 17 hp, which is not totally ridiculous. There's enough variance in horsepower figures from manufacturers to make that reasonable enough for a single 250. I rode a Suzuki Intruder 250, which is 20hp (I think), and that got around quite nicely.

What's wrong with USD forks, anyway? Surely better suspension isn't a bad thing? Hell, I wish I had USD forks on my 26hp single (if it weren't for the fact USD forks are so ugly), the fork flex I get is phenomenal. Twin front discs too, probably a gimmick, but the bike does weigh 166kg, and will be able to do 100kph; you can't blame a manufacturer for putting in better technology than you'll need. That's silly.

[Robbo]

Have a look on page 10 of the latest NZ Motorcycle Trader Magazine. There is a very interesting article in regards to Chinese manufacturing of motorcycles.

[Gremlin]

USD... hah... have any of you actually seen one in the flesh, and tried pushing on the front end? Just wait until you actually feel the suspension, its rough. Quality of paint is shocking, same with metal...

The demo the importer dropped off was quite new, was rusting, suspension and brakes horrible... The shop wouldn't touch it.

[breakaway]

That thing is ugly as hell.

[Bonez]

USD... hah... have any of you actually seen one in the flesh, and tried pushing on the front end? Just wait until you actually feel the suspension, its rough. Quality of paint is shocking, same with metal....

Have a decent look at the assembly build quality of some of the so called premium brand cycles sometime.

[Hillbilly]

Have a decent look at the assembly build quality of some of the so called premium brand cycles sometime.

Yeah! Here's part of an article reviewing the GS500F:

The package is very straightforward, and is not far removed from a lot of the mid-range bikes you could buy several decades ago...

In all the machine feels as though it's built to a price...

Suspension is okay one-up, though two-up loads will stretch the friendship. There's ride-height adjustment at both ends and we found the package worked fine until you really gave it a hard time in turns, when it would start to show signs of becoming overwhelmed.

BTW, I agree with those comments. I have more fun on the GPX.

[Mr. Peanut]

Shows a lack of coherent design, twin disc brakes on something with less than 20hp is worse than pointless. Apply that incoherence to every single moving part on that motorcycle; then run.

If the Chinese sold a well bolted together thumper, I'd buy it. Instead, they keep trying to imitate more sophisticated machines.

Build something solid dammit!!

[deathstar]

wow wondered when they would get into gear on this bike ... i test rode the first one of these in the country for the importer and it really was a peice of shit but got clocked at 135km/h max speed so don't get to worried about speeding tickets just yet .... yeah not bad on fuel economy and if anyone remembers seeing me on this 6 months ago it really sounded good but thats about it

[Bonez]

wow wondered when they would get into gear on this bike ... i test rode the first one of these in the country for the importer and it really was a peice of shit but got clocked at 135km/h max speed so don't get to worried about speeding tickets just yet

Last time I looked 135km/h is ample speed to get a ticket and in some instances loose ones licence...............

[ZeroIndex]

That's about 17 hp, which is not totally ridiculous. There's enough variance in horsepower figures from manufacturers to make that reasonable enough for a single 250. I rode a Suzuki Intruder 250, which is 20hp (I think), and that got around quite nicely.

What's wrong with USD forks, anyway? Surely better suspension isn't a bad thing? Hell, I wish I had USD forks on my 26hp single (if it weren't for the fact USD forks are so ugly), the fork flex I get is phenomenal. Twin front discs too, probably a gimmick, but the bike does weigh 166kg, and will be able to do 100kph; you can't blame a manufacturer for putting in better technology than you'll need. That's silly.

The thing though is the standard forks on GPX's and VTR250's are better than the Korean USD's found on Hyosungs... what's the chances that the Chinese USD's will be any better than the Hyosung USDs?

[ZeroIndex]

USD... hah... have any of you actually seen one in the flesh, and tried pushing on the front end? Just wait until you actually feel the suspension, its rough. Quality of paint is shocking, same with metal...

The demo the importer dropped off was quite new, was rusting, suspension and brakes horrible... The shop wouldn't touch it.

I predicted this, didn't I?

[ZeroIndex]

wow wondered when they would get into gear on this bike ... i test rode the first one of these in the country for the importer and it really was a peice of shit but got clocked at 135km/h max speed so don't get to worried about speeding tickets just yet .... yeah not bad on fuel economy and if anyone remembers seeing me on this 6 months ago it really sounded good but thats about it

135? Are you sure? I bet the speedo is out...

[deathstar]

you try telling the police the speedo is out because if so great ... oh well anyway yeah cheap peice of shit costs like 2.8k so yeah with the budget should be like 4k but god knows