GN250 speed ?

[kensuem]

While browsing I came accross this on the net,one for the harley owners to ponder,but then it may be a repost!

[swbarnett]

My Gn has done 12000klm in the last 12months,and just about all of it flat out.I have to admit that it gets thrashed all of the time,but the engine hasnt fallen to bits yet!

Indeed, I ride mine like I'm desperate to get somewhere (anywhere!). It's done 10000 in 9months and still going strong.

[Minnie]

ive had mine for 6 months, i can only get 120km out of it, have tried to go faster with no luck. am looking forward to trading up to a 5-600cc when the time is right, but having said that ive had a heck of a lot of fun on my bike, its nice and steady for my over excited brain at times, and im sure if i was on something a bit more peppy would have got myself into trouble heaps already.
ive done short trips and long trips and i just have to be aware that everyone will be waiting for me at the next turn off.....ha ha

[Gizzit]

Thanks for that,perhaps I am getting over sensative,but it seems the new National pastime is to rubbish Gn250s.With regard to things being made in China,we went to get a new microwave yesterday,I quite liked the WarehouseCascade model,but saw it was made in China,then I checked on the other brands,and found that the Sharp and sanyo are also now made in China,as was the phillips Sterio we bought a while ago!

China will get to be the quality that Japan has ... very soon I imagine. Like we used to think "Jap Crap" .... not any more !! China will be the same I think.
Cheers,
Grant.

[Lucy]

Try to get an RG150 if you want a budget open road bike. GN250 is a fabulous bike to learn basic skills on and to commute through traffic but I would have serious worries about it's cornering ability and overtaking on the open road.

You mean it's ability to eject the rider off the bike and into the gravel whilst cornering? Yes, it does fail in that ability....

[Pancakes]

The chinese manufature almost everything and will do it however they're contracted to (Macpac being made in China now so better technology can be applied to their products) The are Taiwanese and Chinese manufacturing districts where you can take your prototype and get a quote on however many thousand you want. I had 3 gn's which got put together to be one better one as my "getting back into riding" bike. The older ones were noticibly better and the one new (2000's) one was crap, bolts would sheer, the casting for lots of parts had an obvious "grain" where the metal wasn't formed properly. I did use the tyres from the new one on the end product and had it hang out too much, I ran a higher gear on it than standard and did get 135 out of it but it took off way too slow. Gear a bike down for more pick-up, get a bigger bike to go faster, a real generalization but pretty much there.

TYRES THAT STICK TO WET METAL *cough - cough* I'll buy that for a dollar, better still, I'll take you to some roads around here with big square lids mid-corner and you can show me how eh?

You get what you pay for, how long are you going to have the bike for? 5 years? for another $10 a week your used GN becomes a brand new Hyosung, $15 a week you get a used CBR250RR in ok nick or a Hyo 650. Just my 2c

PS, not a hyo lover, but they are good value. I got a new bike cos I was sick of fixing and replacing things. It's not that fast but what 250 is?



Who said RGVr?

[terbang]

I got my Missus one up to once 120 with me chin on the tank. However they are a great learners bike unless you are a big heavy bloke (or gal).

[McJim]

You mean it's ability to eject the rider off the bike and into the gravel whilst cornering? Yes, it does fail in that ability....

RG never did that to me - wot you talkin' about Willis?

[swbarnett]

TYRES THAT STICK TO WET METAL *cough - cough* I'll buy that for a dollar, better still, I'll take you to some roads around here with big square lids mid-corner and you can show me how eh?

I didn't mean to say that my tyres from way back would stick to metal in a corner. I just meant to illustrate that, even in a straight line, the GN250 stock tyres aren't good crossing bridge expansion joints. In a heavy downpour the bike tends to go sideways over them whereas by CB750 with the Avon Blue Spots back in the late 80s would keep a perfectly straight line.

[Pancakes]

A bike going straight has as much to do with the tyres as it does to do with frame alignment, shocks (in the case of GN's with dual rears) rider position (shock horror, $100 says your arms and legs are slightly different lengths on each side!). My point was that how a bike seems to ride (straight or cornering) over wet metal plates isn't really that great a test, best lawnmower for vaccuming your house with? Not really a priority. The other thing to remember is you probably could make a GN handlke really well, Raise that pipe that scrapes on the ground, new forks, lighter wheels, cut the frame and adjust the head angle, new rear shocks new engine, OH SHIT $10,000 later... You'll read tons about the BEST bikes, BEST tyres etc but normal people are operating inside of a bunch of financial constraints and compromises for their end use. If your bike budget is $2400 (which is about what Gizzit's seems to be and this is a thread about him buying a bike) you might be looking for best tyres available for $300 a set, just over 10% of the bikes value. I agree with those who post about changing tyres etc to the best you can get/afford, just what people can afford is different as is the end use. I used to sell high end bikes, people would try to buy a good value/cheaper bike then upgrade everything because they thought they were great riders and needed good stuff, they'd end up pricing it up then just buying a better built up bike for less. I would advise people to change parts that are sub-standard or clearly no good but add up the cost, you might be looking at bike + upgrades costing more that a better manufacturers package. Take your new purchase out and show some self control and takes things further in small steps. If some part isn't performing well, you will know how much of an upgrade you need (ie, brakes. Pads and fluid or full new system?) Then you get to spend your upgrade budget where you'll notice a difference and get used to "normal" on that bike at the same time instead of chucking tons of race bits at a bike and hoping it'll make you a better rider.

You get what you pay for.

Gizzit, my bike is in at Red Baron at the moment, if you want something that will be reliable and GN like they have lent me a bike that fits the bill, the best thing is it won't cost an arm and a leg. If you would have been happy on a GN you'll be happy on this with gas money to spare, if not you will have saved some devaluation on the newer GN and have money left to buy what you might really want.

Forgot to add pics, see below

[Pancakes]

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[swbarnett]

A bike going straight has as much to do with the tyres as it does to do with frame alignment, shocks ...

A point well made. I was already starting to think that there was a lot more involved than the tyres. The day that I was sliding on bridge joints there was a lot of surface water and driving rain - admittedly pretty extreme for any tyre.

(slinks back into his corner after blabbing the first thing that came to mind... )

[Pancakes]

I like to think of it like a good stereo, you can have a good amp and good speakers but if the signal is bad the result will mirror that. All the good bits can't stop you, the rider, inputting bad signal. For safetys sake it is important to have your gear up to scratch but we can all only afford so much, learning to do the best with what you have will help your riding no-end. The vast majority of car racers at the top of their game started in carts and progressed from there. A brand 'spankers R1 will let most people ride like a superstar..... until it goes wrong. Better to get your medicine at lower speeds if your going to get a dose eh? Spending time on low power bikes and ones that don't handle as well as something newer or twice the price teaches you how to carry speed thru corners and ride more fluidly (fluid-lee, making up words now?) so you can make the most of the next bike closer to it's full potential.

I used to coach rock-climbing and people would spout on, wrong shoes, different chalk, glare, all kinds of bull-shit. We had ton's of fun, climbing pretty well with what you could afford while trying to work as little as possible to just get out climbing and the guys that were really fricken amazing had what everyone else had and realised that the biggest improvement could be made by fixing the weakest link in the chain - themselves.

If you have a dream ride - love it, if you don't, make the most of the opportunity presented to you.

[surfchick]

Yes I thought 140k may be a bit of wishful thinking too! I do mainly want to commute in a 50 & 70K zone, so in that role, a rocketship isn't really needed. However, as a born again bike rider (read middle aged/ mid life crisis!), I may find I want to get out on the highway sometime ... and stretch my legs!

I recently tried a Yamaha Scorpio 225, and in a short distance had it up to 100k in no time. I'm not sure what it would wind out to, but 100k was no problem.
Just wondering if it is a better bet ??
I saw a Honda 250CBF ? new, for about $7000 and thought that was a bit too much to pay, at twice the price of a new GN !! Do you get twice the bike ? I know Honda's are good ... but thought that was a bit OTT!

I'm selling a beastie 250cc cruiser v-twin that kicks asse at 120... and still not vibrating...check da trademe listing - :
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=103166038

got a dude coming to see it on wed tho..so might not have it long... good luck on your bike hunt-if it was me i'd be looking at getting any of the quicker 250's as you don't really ever want to be struggling to get to 100kph... how irritating

[paddyrider]

I changed the back sprocket and now I can do 110 no problem at 5500revs. and 120 at 6 . Bit slow over the bombays. but 4th gear allways helps. PS I bought the bike from a reputable dealer. after getting my bike back after service I rate them as holeshite.