Trademe listing to be aware of

[orangeback]

I don't have a problem with it because I'm not going to buy it. If you think it's so great and "it's a fucking bargain" why don't you buy it then?

All I'm doing is giving the fraternity a heads up. I'm not whinging for the sake of whinging either, if it's not a problem why has the seller at Trademe not disclosed it's real history? Minor drop? haven't got time to ride it? what a load of shite!

i agree that it just a money making venture, as it was up for sale with out pict s just after one week , and it's a little rich at $11500 , i was at turners and was thinking of buying it my self , alway good to know the history of any bike (thumbs up ) but 60 % of bikes have bean droped, i recon. and they wright them of with so little damage these days, cos parts are so expensive and the bike shops dont want to do repair work that sits in there wrkshop for 6-8 week, they rather have quick turn around work , look how long it tock to do your mates zx10 i did the same damage to mine and had the parts out of the states in less than 10 day and did it myself

[cowpoos]

I once got told "never put down someone thats trying to help". I think its great that he has told people this, least he is one of the 2% of the honest kiwis in NZ.



I bet you would be whinging if you spent your hard earnt cash on a bike, to later find out that it has had a damaged history..that you didnt know about.

Top marks mate, good on you for helping us bikers out....keep the biker circle going.

yes...my bike has been crashed before I owned it...it also competed in two national superbike championships...before I owned it...does it really mater at all...nope...and the previous owners were completely honest about it!!

And....I would really like to know why it would matter??? wtf does it matter if a bikes ben down the road?? if its in mint condition now??? huh?? same with all these nay say-ers who rant on about buying ex-race bikes...ex-race bikes are more often in better condition mechanically than the one joe blogs owned from new and rides...

[cowpoos]

I don't have a problem with it because I'm not going to buy it. If you think it's so great and "it's a fucking bargain" why don't you buy it then?

I have one

All I'm doing is giving the fraternity a heads up. I'm not whinging for the sake of whinging either, if it's not a problem why has the seller at Trademe not disclosed it's real history? Minor drop? haven't got time to ride it? what a load of shite!

so the guys going to make a buck from fixing it up and selling it...so what?
its still a cheap modern sportsbike!!

[SHELRACING]

It seems that every rider has their own personal preference as to whether they will buy a crashed bike, or a bike unseen.
I agree that people should be honest about these things but a lot on trademe are not. You only have to read their feedback.

Anyone who is not aware of any problems a bike has after a crash, needs a site like this to help them.

Thank you for letting others know.
Now they can make informed decisions, ask questions and get someone to check the bike over thoroughly.

[kneescraper]

I guess it comes down to how you feel when riding it. A race bike is different in MY view. Its been thrashed, thats it desternation in life...however when buying a road bike I want to bike a "pure" bike, one that has had a good life...thats been mint since factory, well looked after. Thats what I want from a bike....some people dont.

Each to their own!

[Cr1MiNaL]

I wouldnt touch it.. doin 200 plus and at the bak of my mind knowing that it hadnt been put bak by the factory is not v comforting for me. but ur opinions may differ.. I think if it was crached "minor damage" does not sum it up adequately. hes a lyin fart n needs his head straightned. thought if ur a gixxer fan i guess ud buy it, but not me no surrie.

[-df-]

so the guys going to make a buck from fixing it up and selling it...so what? its still a cheap modern sportsbike!!

Nothing wrong with making a buck...but lying about it is another story. All he was saying is that it has been damaged more then what the owner has stated.

I've owned a damaged bike, nothing wrong with them if done right...but I would be pissed if I'd bought it and then found out it had been damaged and the prev owner had lied about it.

[Paulus]

And....I would really like to know why it would matter??? wtf does it matter if a bikes ben down the road?? if its in mint condition now??? huh?? same with all these nay say-ers who rant on about buying ex-race bikes...ex-race bikes are more often in better condition mechanically than the one joe blogs owned from new and rides...

I once bought a Fireblade once that had been once down the road as you say. Repaired to excellent condition apparently. Unfortunately the impact had cracked the engine casing all through the oil feed to the main bearings and the motor was effectively fucked (new engine cases were $5500 plus bearings and rings). You got a good one - I didn't. Be very wary.

I also saw that bike right after the crash and it was well fucked. Seeing how fragile modern gixxer frames seem to be I'd give it a wide berth.

[NinjaBoy]

Unless the Trademe description has changed significantly since the first post, the seller seems to be reasonable open. He says its been dropped and re-reg'd recently - this points to a write-off. He lists all the parts replaced and has offered to show the broken bits to the prospective buyer.

This is a late model 750cc sportsbike, so your prospective buyer is unlikely to be a first time biker... anyone serious about spending this amount of money is going to be cautious... may even get it professionally checked.

As with any sale you need a balance of positive spin mixed with some facts, but as always - Buyer Beware

[Paulus]

Unless the Trademe description has changed significantly since the first post, the seller seems to be reasonable open. He says its been dropped and re-reg'd recently - this points to a write-off. He lists all the parts replaced and has offered to show the broken bits to the prospective buyer.

This is a late model 750cc sportsbike, so your prospective buyer is unlikely to be a first time biker... anyone serious about spending this amount of money is going to be cautious... may even get it professionally checked.

As with any sale you need a balance of positive spin mixed with some facts, but as always - Buyer Beware

Yep description has changed quite a bit since his earlier listing. It still makes light of a very serious impact though. Minor damage? He must be joking.

[mynameis]

You'd wonder how and why the description has changed aye?

Well after I read this thread and saw people attacking him, I thought I'd email to check his integrity and honesty. Well nothing surprising if someone has to be honest and open about anything they will be in the first instance, clearly not the case.

He did not really answer my question but sent a smarty reply "it can be dropped in many ways" what I think he meant was it could have been a 150 km/hr wheelie crash or a stand still drop from the stand but clearly did not state anything constructive like the extent of the damage and what repairs he carried out or how the accident happened.

So I e mailed back and told him that there was info about the bike and it's history on a popular forum with a large audience and the chances of his next buyer being a member from here was high. Also asking him to be a bit honest about the whole thing that's all, at first he was a bit aggressive than mellowed down very quickly, wonder why.

Next e mail I get from him is with specific details and Trade Me listing description changed, wonder how many others had a go at him. I just don't like the fact he's playing smart but is being silly in reality and not being open and honest about it.

If he makes a buck or two good for him but at least be honest about it as the buyer would probably want to know about it's history because not everyone would want a crashed repaired bike at a cheap price but it suits others.

Whatever happened to the good old kiwi days of honesty is the best policy and a bottle of milk dropped outside your doorstep with an honesty jar nearby hmm?

[wrxchic]

hi to all im new to this but there seems to be a problem with the bike im selling on trademe so thought id set you all straight as i have changed the wording on trademe due to emails asking what was repaired and have listed all that was done ,anyone who is interested is more than welcome to view or give me a call as to the email i sent back to the guy that has said i did not explain things to him eg im guessing its MYNAMEIS well the email he sent me read A CRASHED BIKE AND YOUR LYING ON TRADEME and if anyone else that was listing your bike and you were sent that, how would you respond as a fact im not lying as ive listed it as being dropped and rereged there was no major damage other than a simple unboltable subframe ive seen these brake when people have done wheelies and dropped it thanks for your time im not here to complain just to set people straight genuine people please phone

[mynameis]

Mate there's always 3 sides of a story my side your side and the truth. No point getting into a handbag fight of he said, she said. The fact of the matter is the initial description you had on TradeMe was to some extent flawed and misleading to any potential buyer in my opinion, as in the opinion of many others on here. You can read through all the responses in this thread, it's pretty evident.

But on the positive side glad to see you have changed that and provided more detailed information for your potential buyer, who now would be in a good position to make a buy decision. All the best with the sale and I hope you get your asking price and more importantly welcome to the site. Probably not the best introduction but you will for surely enjoy this place.

You might also want to run your TradeMe description through a spell checker

[wrxchic]

hi if it was so badly damaged as most put it then why were there so many people bidding on it and its gone through complaince with out any problems the main damage was the seat subframe which unbolts easy its good that there are people pointing out that its been a damaged bike but if you were to read the add before and after i updated it then you will notice that i say its been rereged due to being dropped and anyone that has had a genuine interest and have asked qs i have answered them to what they ask for even a couple of people looked at the bike before it was repaired so you know what it was like i have full photos of the bike in damaged state for people to view but if your only going to make comments then please dont waste my time thanks for extra advertising as bring up my bike also

[imdying]

So who had pics again?