Car versus motorcycle (not a crash)

[tommorth]

i rekon the lada would win i saw a thing on a rally lada once the owner rolled it while they were filming him driving around a quarry
bike is way better value for money buy a $500 dirt bike and thrash it around in the bush or a paddok for a couple of days and use 15 bucks gas how can a car compare

[jonbuoy]

So you are behind the car then?

Yup then passed them. That sounds arrogant - but its the truth - I've had plenty of bikes give me the learn but very few cars. For a bit of humour check out the stats of these old bikes (specifically the trusty old 750 commando) against the best of todays 4 wheeled stuff - 0-100 and STD1/4 mile times - -

2006 Subaru WRX STI 4.5 13.0 MT Dec '05)
2004 Porsche Cayenne Turbo 5.4 13.8
2002 Lamborghini Murcielago 3.6 12.0
2005 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti 4.6 12.8 (R&T Sept '05)

[Damon]

Here's one from Top Gear with some pro driver/riders

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at6VK-Yf2Pc

[90s]

Yup then passed them. That sounds arrogant - but its the truth - I've had plenty of bikes give me the learn but very few cars. For a bit of humour check out the stats of these old bikes (specifically the trusty old 750 commando) against the best of todays 4 wheeled stuff - 0-100 and STD1/4 mile times

Great table you found there. No argument about the fun and power of bikes. CAR magazine's rating was that 10s 0-60mph was 'fast' and 5.5s 0-60 was "supercar" territory. Amazing how many small and old bikes make supercar status - and even my old steed can crack into it.

[90s]

Here's one from Top Gear with some pro driver/riders

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at6VK-Yf2Pc

This is the one that I left this comment about earlier in the thread:

One has the topgear clip of an actual 1on1 between an R1 and a Porche at the track. In this and the lambo clip the distance between the two is amazingly small (lambo looses; porker wins - although the R1 could have easily shut out the porker on the hairpin where it squeezes by before the line).

Note my last comment and watch the clip again - with only the chicane to go in the last few seconds the R1 is way out of place for a good line - in fact it is hard not to argue that he deliberately leaves the door open for the porker to roll through. Overall though what is amazing is how close these contests are even on the track.

[ManDownUnder]

Yeah it's always interesting to see comaprisons but - I offer you this as something to think about - a $10,000 go-kart vs a $10,000 bike round a go-kart track.

Out of it's element a bike's going to get left far far far behind. It's not a source of embarrassment, or admission of failure - they're simply two different machines.

Put the two of them on an open circuit and see the difference again...

Then do it on a straight line drag for 1/4 mile.

Not a big deal.

[swbarnett]

Here's one from Top Gear with some pro driver/riders

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at6VK-Yf2Pc

I'd love to see these two vehicles in a time trial contest on the same track. It seemed to me that the bike was being conservative on some of the corners. With a car that close I don't blame him.

[N4CR]

there's some youtube clips of this in the arizona desert that have been posted here before but should be easy to find. if memory serves its against a 911 turbo and some 200mph yank trash like a zr1.

i've seen 3 busas and a zx12 go up against a 800hp tt viper. stock busa juuuust gets walked by the viper, then the minorly modded busa (can and lowered or something) gets it pretty good, and the nos busa and 12r (cammed and all sorts of mods) kills it completely.
but other times when the riders are **** a 500hp car beats a bike... rather funny

if in any speciality situation where money is no object, a car will win every time, plain and simple. only time a car physically cannot win would be lane splitting, hence why ghost rider made his movies to rark the car guys up