Trademe listing to be aware of

[90s]

Entertaining thread - as yod said something for everypone: a bit of espionage, a few twists and turns, new characters (the mysterious starletboy) who may or may not be a) a false identity b) an innocent party c) a deluded party d) a same sex partner. We have hig-speed crashes, reported threats of intimidation, red herrings, and interesting side-plots. Even better YOU TOO can join the ongoing sage. Its better than second life.

Hollywood can approach me for the film rights.

However, I would be grateful for future heads-up on any bike histories advertised anywhere. We can take it with a pinch of salt or ignore it but if buyer beware then I'd like to know. What's the harm?

[imdying]

most modern bike frames are reasonably fine for what they are designed for. sideways or top down impact and... damn.. they don't take it at all as they are not designed for it.

Got some bling for you later... That is pretty much the crux of it. Used as designed, they'll take everything you've got. Crashing into banks or whatever... not so much.

I've seen two pictures of GSXR frames that've snapped at the headstock. I reputedly 'just snapped', but later came out to be accident damage, the other, well that was reputedly too many wheelies, no mention of being random.

Having said that, TLS frames would occasionally crack due to bad design. Of course, we have FMA for peanuts these days, I would be surprised to see a top of the range model suffer from that fault without it being quite common.

I still haven't seen any pics of this bike with broken cases or anything but minor damage, so without some sort of evidence, probably best to leave it there.

[kickingzebra]

paranoid schizophrenia is always a good thing to have on ones CV monkeyboy. Get off the internet this moment, and make yourself a tin foil hat, cause those damn sattelites will be zooming in on you any minute now.

Regarding crashed bikes. I would agree, the weakest frame I can think of at the moment would be the k6 suzukis. And I have one. it has been crashed twice. at track speeds. and still runs straight and true right up to redline in 6th.
You can break anything if you try hard enough, but wrxchic is doing the right thing. at least it isn't yet another "always serviced, and never run past 10,000 rpm" quote in there.

So harden up you whiners. You only have a right to speak if you have never once failed to give all of the information pursuant to any deal, sale, situation or relationship.
The buyer knows enough to investigate further if they decide to pursue the bike.

Libel from uneducated morons is still libel.

[wrxchic]

Just a couple of quick thing to add:

90s sorry to take out one of the more interesting possible twists to the thread i am starletboy1's FEMALE partner sorry to disappoint if this was to be in your movie.

Also imdying the pic in profile is of the bike the day we brought it home from turners pre any repairs so yes it was very minor damage and not the huge wreak some people have made it out to be. Unfortunately for their mate it was probably his broken leg or tailbone that took more of the impact saving the bike.

Thanks for all the interest this has created and subject to finance I have 2 parties fighting to purchase it. Both of which are well aware of all details of the bike one of which was very interested well before this discussion even started. NOTE to anyone else interested until cash is in hand bike is still up for sale.

[Patrick]

Good on ya Monkeyboy ... I would have wanted to know, and now everyone knows the true extent... all is good in the world again.

[Patrick]

Just a couple of quick thing to add:

90s sorry to take out one of the more interesting possible twists to the thread i am starletboy1's FEMALE partner sorry to disappoint if this was to be in your movie.

Damn... perfect way to ruin a great movie...

[jeremyb]

Unfortunately for their mate it was probably his broken leg or tailbone that took more of the impact saving the bike.

BAHAHAHAHAHHA theres at least two people in this thread who actually saw the crash, you weren't one of them.

[bbbimportsparts]

sorry dude was meant to put in wrxchic not you, too busy reading the thread and laughing, again sorry

[90s]

90s sorry to take out one of the more interesting possible twists to the thread i am starletboy1's FEMALE partner sorry to disappoint if this was to be in your movie.

That's fine. Starletboy in my movie is played by Angelina Jolie under the name "gixxer kixxer"

Cameos to all on KB.

Good luck with the sale.

[crazybigal]

yes but how long ago was that? the rules changed about a year ago.
it used to be fix it and take it down to vins station and get it re reged and vined. if they liked the look of it they passed it.
now if a bike is de reged then it has to be certed, frame and components measured and checked for cracks. then once its signed off its then alowed to get a vin.
to many people think writen off means its fucked, not the case!. writen off is an insurance term. hell ive seen bike writen off due to scratches all over.
Insurance companies have to replace every little thing, so the cost adds up to were its un economical.

if a bike has been through the cert and re vined ok then there is nothing wrong with it.
But it is nice to know its history if possible.

I once looked at a suzuki bandit 250 for a mate and he was going to buy it, but when I rode it, it felt as though it just didnt want to turn at all. I said to him that it had been crashed so he asked them about it...and then the truth came out and they said yes it had been written off and "fixed up" to me it felt like a bent steering head (wrong angle) and it still passed re-vinning ok

[surfchick]

ive uploaded a pic to my profile for everyone to look at still cant see the major damage that people are going on about or maybe they were the bidders that i out bid on this , who would ever know, but hay each to their own its their right to comment but get the facts first pics show it all

my my this is a baptism by fire in terms of you joining KB!

[cowpoos]

Having said that, TLS frames would occasionally crack due to bad design. Of course,

Wasn't bad design of the frame as such...was more a fault of the rush R&D suspension department...they rushed the design onthe roatary dampers and separate side mounted spring unit[which interestingly enough I believe was a linier rate linkage..as in ideal !!],which as you may or may not be aware were used in place of a regular damper and spring unit...or shock if you want to call it that...the problem with the rotary damer was its damping characteristics,inparticular not being able to flow enough oil through the high speed valving system...and it would cause a sort of a hydraulic lock on real bumps or numerous bumps in a row..so it was sending some very unforgiving and powerful shocks through the top damper mount...where it would crack...and fair enough to...most of this fault was found in countries with bumpy roads..NZ auz,UK,etc...would never be a problem on a race track...and never will happen after a after market conventional shock is installed...penske,ohlins,maxton,biturbo all do a replacement for TL1000s

[imdying]

Excellent summary poos

[jeremyb]

The big issue with the new generation suzuki frames is that the casting which used to be just for the headstock now extends most of the way down the side spars of the frame where theres a lot more leverage against that weld which is where they tend to crack...

[HenryDorsetCase]

90s sorry to take out one of the more interesting possible twists to the thread i am starletboy1's FEMALE partner sorry to disappoint if this was to be in your movie.

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