Death penalty

[ManDownUnder]

Dead people don't go and rape more little girls though.

I'm willing to risk that, given the rate of reoffending in this country.

Very true - and dead innocents don't get to be a parent to their sons and daughters. Your point being?

[imdying]

I think the point is pretty clear.

[98tls]

Very true - and dead innocents don't get to be a parent to their sons and daughters. Your point being?

yes but in the long term i am guessing you would save a whole lot more "innocents" a lot of grief..think of it as a war.....theres always a few friendlys killed but nowhere near the number of enemy.....

[ManDownUnder]

yes but in the long term i am guessing you would save a whole lot more "innocents" a lot of grief..think of it as a war.....theres always a few friendlys killed but nowhere near the number of enemy.....

yeah but - how many are pointing the gun thinking "hang on - I might get the death penalty for this".

Or is it more like "DIE YOU FUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!" through a gently falling red mist?

The more serious/violent the crime the less effective are punative deterrents

[pzkpfw]

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Kill him.


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Kill him.


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Kill her.


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Kill them all.


I'm sick to death of all the bollocks.

Grrr.


(The real trick is where one draws the line. It's not easy. Some people would want the death penalty for motorcylists who lane split! But at some point, we need a line.

Somewhere.

Maybe between rape and returning library books late.)

[Colapop]

Concrete tank justice. Same as an island but it'll take less time for them to kill each other and then you only need one bullet to kill the most evil bugger who obviously committed murder to be the last...

[98tls]

There are people in this country locked up and even scarier not locked up that are just plain fucked up.......all the greenie tree hugging shit in the world isnt going to save em.......there just bad..simple.The reality is that its lotto odds that there going to end up breaking in to your house fuckin your missus up the arse after bashing you senseless or worse doing something to your kids.......for me anyway there not odds i want to take.......kill them end of story..if you dont accept there out there then your living in a bubble and i just hope it doesnt get burst the hard way.I wonder how many nays you would get if this question was asked to a group of people who had suffered at the hands of said fuck-ups.....sure you would get the odd bible bashing forgiveness freak but not many.............

[Mom]

yeah but - how many are pointing the gun thinking "hang on - I might get the death penalty for this".

Or is it more like "DIE YOU FUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!" through a gently falling red mist?

The more serious/violent the crime the less effective are punative deterrents

The death penalty serves no purpose!!! If i am hell bent on killing you for instance......for what ever reason I am goiing to do it!!!!!! Fuck the consequences........

[98tls]

The death penalty serves no purpose!!! If i am hell bent on killing you for instance......for what ever reason I am goiing to do it!!!!!! Fuck the consequences........

For sure.......thing is though if your heads cut off your unlikely to kill anyone else................

[janno]

Definitely against.

Because even though there will be the best of intentions, mistakes are always made in the judicial system.

And you might not care too much if it was someone else, but what if the wrongly convicted person was your partner . . . or you?

But then what would I do if it was my loved one murdered?

In the heat of the moment I would try and kill that person committing the crime, but being able to cold bloodedly kill them years after the fact - that's a toughie.

And like someone said, if you're not prepared to do it yourself, should you really support the death penalty?

Hopefully I'll never be in the situation where I need to ponder this any further, fingers crossed.

[Flatcap]

For sure.......thing is though if your heads cut off your unlikely to kill anyone else................

Aah - so you are an advocate for the guillotine.

No discussion about the death penalty is complete without mention of the form it will take.

Guillotine: Quick but messy
Firing Squad: Not so quick, messy, but impressive
Lethal injection: A bit boring with little suffering
Electric chair: Can go wrong, and probably bad for the ozone layer.
Hanging: Cheap and effective, good family entertainment

What have I missed?

[Colapop]

If the death penalty is not an option then what is the solution? We cannot continue to incarcerate convicts for lengths of time, reduced on appeal, then let out on early parole to re offend. Prison has become a place of haven for recidivist offenders, a breeding ground for future recidivists and a salve for bleeding heart liberals who want to "save the world".

The justice system does not offer justice to the victims of these crimes.

A child can be beaten to death and the public cry foul (thanks to a media circus) but in 10 years time the perpetrator is freed having 'served his/her debt to society' and goes on to beat a second child to death. What has been achieved? All that happens is the death of a child by the hands of a violent and brutal person has been forgotten and another child is in line to be forgotten, by all but those who loved it.

A woman can be brutally raped repeatedly over the course of many hours and left for dead. The evil bastard responsible for the heinous crime is jailed for 6 years and is then released having been cured after 5. He goes on to rape another 3 women before being caught again.

These crimes have happened and these criminals have been rightly convicted for these crimes. What do we do to stop them doing it again?

[Grahameeboy]

kill them i say!!!

[janno]

Aah - so you are an advocate for the guillotine.

No discussion about the death penalty is complete without mention of the form it will take.

Guillotine: Quick but messy
Firing Squad: Not so quick, messy, but impressive
Lethal injection: A bit boring with little suffering
Electric chair: Can go wrong, and probably bad for the ozone layer.
Hanging: Cheap and effective, good family entertainment

What have I missed?

Eating KFC and Macca's - doesn't that kill ya these days . . .?

[98tls]

i met a bloke who when 17 killed a guy with a hammer........the guy had raped his sister........when talking to him about the death penalty he said he wished they had killed him.......at that stage he was early thirtys and still in jail so go figure........maybe its more of a punishment to lock em up for ever.....dunno.