Party pills BANNED!

[Kickaha]

I guess all the limp wristed fags that need to take drugs for a high couldn't handle a 'high' from octane anyway!!

Dunno about that, you and Bob seem to be able to

That's laughable mate. Do you drink alcohol? If so....you're a fag.

He doesn't so much drink as "guzzle"

Personally I don't see the point in pills or booze (although I'm sure I used to) , riding and racing does it for me!

[Grahameeboy]

mate, i only do mushrooms VERY occasionaly, its NOT a regular thing, party pills? never done them, not my thing. weed? yeah, but as many others here have said, far better for you than alchohol! but guess what? i drink more beer than i do the others so where does that leave me? lol

Remind me not to try your special coffee of the day WHEN your cafe is open

[Albino]

ALL of the arguments I have heard supporting the ban of party pills also apply to alcohol.

And in regards to the comments about quality control, these are much safer than illegal alternatives - and concerns about quality of ingredients could easily be addressed. I almost died a number of years ago when sold ecstacy that was actually laced with methamphetimine of which I am severely allergic. This wouldn't happen with something off the shelf.

I am an educated and sensible person. You may not believe that, and judge me because I've tried drugs in the past but that's your problem not mine. But half the allure for me was that doing so was a big fuck-you to societies rules.

You may not have any time for party pills and drugs, but believe me these days the chances are that your children will. So do you want to a) be an ostrich, or b) offer them the safest alternatives.

PS - I hate the bloody things. But I also hate offal.

[Krusti]

I vaguely remembered that they stopped using it as a drench for some reason. A quick google later and

"BZP was rejected as a cattle drench because it was considered too tough on the cattle"

do they not know, or simply not care?

BZP is crap, didn't get rid of my worms!

[Hitcher]

And in regards to the comments about quality control, these are much safer than illegal alternatives - and concerns about quality of ingredients could easily be addressed. I almost died a number of years ago when sold ecstacy that was actually laced with methamphetimine of which I am severely allergic. This wouldn't happen with something off the shelf.

I am an educated and sensible person.

Yet you are prepared to ingest materials that have no list of ingredients, schedule of approved ingredients or quality control systems used in their manufacture? Just because something is sold "off the shelf" is no guarantee. Just look at the recent anti-freeze toothpaste saga. Caveat emptor.

[Albino]

Yet you are prepared to ingest materials that have no list of ingredients, schedule of approved ingredients or quality control systems used in their manufacture? Just because something is sold "off the shelf" is no guarantee. Just look at the recent anti-freeze toothpaste saga. Caveat emptor.

Put an ingredients list on it, implement some regulation, problem solved.

Thousands of people take pills like ecstacy every weekend, god knows what half the pills contain. In the UK the estimates were that 5 million pills swallowed every weekend. Just because it's frowned upon, or illegal, doesn't mean it won't happen.

[SARGE]

Best to legalise all drugs, then deal with the real problems, rather than outlaw them and create a whole raft of much bigger problems.

better yet.. legalize everything, tax the shit out of them and come back in 5 years and clean up the mess.

those who are pissed off that the Gubmint has banned another plaything may or may not switch to harder shit .. who knows .. for those who the Party Pills were a passing fad and realize that they can have a good time without pills.. good for them..

those who go the OTHER way ..

here man .. have a handful..

Darwin will win..


lord knows i have abused my body over the past 40+ years with all manner of substances and experiences.. we had REAL LSD when i was coming up.. not this bullshit rat poison they are pushing these days.. we had Quaaludes, Red, Blues, Black Beauties, Valium, Moonshine, Homegrown, Hydroponic and Maui Wowee.. tried most of it .. and BANNING anything just helped the marketing with all the free publicity

cant be bothered nowdays for the most part (probably wouldnt turn down a toke if one was offered..)

[Goblin]

Just heard a bit on the news about this and police are saying they want to educate young people that ALL mind altering drugs are bad for you. Well wont that piss the pharmaceutical companies off! Yesterday I saw that pharmaceutical companies will have to disclose the free holidays, cars etc. that they offer to doctors who prescride their drugs. Maybe now people will realise that a lot of so called health "professionals" dont really give a rodents rectum about peoples health....they're only in it for the money and the perks the farmersuitical companies offer.
How many young people are prescribed fluox for depression when they are just going through puberty? My daughter has a friend who has been on this shit since she was 10...she's now 16. What sort of doctor puts a 10 year old on mind altering drugs? My grandmother was prescribed amitriptoline 30 odd years ago for incontinence and she's still takes them cos her doctor said so. 30 years of drug abuse! Doctors are the worst pushers of mind altering drugs because the general public have been taught that doctors are to be trusted.

I reckon banning party pills will only increase illegal drug use. I tried some on a couple of occasions and the high was no better than i would normaly get from being in good company and a few drinks. The next few days I was shitty as though. No great loss to me but I do worry what my kids will be experimenting with in the future.

[Hitcher]

If I thought for one moment that decriminalising a range of currently illegal mind-altering substances would have absolutely no impact whatsoever on me and mine (such as no impact to our taxes, or effects on/threats to our lives, liberty and pursuit of happiness), I would support such measures in a heartbeat. I see nobody prepared to provide me with any such ironclad guarantee, so my vote goes in favour of regulation and enforcement, including criminality for such products.

[Hitcher]

What sort of doctor puts a 10 year old on mind altering drugs?

What sort of parent takes their daughter to a doctor on the basis that their child has "symptoms" that require medical intervention? Is Ritalin merely a convenient excuse for poor parenting? Don't single out doctors here. As with most issues, the answer is rarely a simple one.

[Crasherfromwayback]

If I thought for one moment that decriminalising a range of currently illegal mind-altering substances would have absolutely no impact whatsoever on me and mine (such as no impact to our taxes, or effects on/threats to our lives, liberty and pursuit of happiness), I would support such measures in a heartbeat. I see nobody prepared to provide me with any such ironclad guarantee, so my vote goes in favour of regulation and enforcement, including criminality for such products.

Then you should suggest to the powers that be we outlaw all forms of motor vehicles too. I mean come on.....

[Hitcher]

Then you should suggest to the powers that be we outlaw all forms of motor vehicles too. I mean come on.....

Your example doesn't quite cover what I had in mind. To continue your analogy, I think that the people who favour decriminalisation/legalisation of currently banned or controlled substances are comparable to a body of opinion that says any motorised vehicle could be able to be ridden/driven anywhere at anytime by anybody (deregulation/decriminilisation) i.e. no warrants of fitness, rode code, police enforcement, criminal prosecution.

I would not support such an environment on the same basis as my lack of support to provide greater "freedoms" around mind-altering substances.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Your example doesn't quite cover what I had in mind. To continue your analogy, I think that the people who favour decriminalisation/legalisation of currently banned or controlled substances are comparable to a body of opinion that says any motorised vehicle could be able to be ridden/driven anywhere at anytime by anybody (deregulation/decriminilisation) i.e. no warrants of fitness, rode code, police enforcement, criminal prosecution.

I would not support such an environment on the same basis as my lack of support to provide greater "freedoms" around mind-altering substances.

I disagree. If you decriminalise these substances, you CAN control them. Just like we're supposed to be doing with Vehicles.

[Hitcher]

If you decriminalise these substances, you CAN control them. Just like we're supposed to be doing with Vehicles.

Please tell me more...

[Goblin]

What sort of parent takes their daughter to a doctor on the basis that their child has "symptoms" that require medical intervention? Is Ritalin merely a convenient excuse for poor parenting? Don't single out doctors here. As with most issues, the answer is rarely a simple one.

The sort of parent who has been brainwashed to believe that doctors know everything and their pills will cure their child's problems, due to poor parenting. It's the doctors who are prescribing the pills, telling the parents the pills will help as their child is sick instead of finding the reason why the child is having problems. It's all about the money and the perks offered by farmersuitical co's. More people on prescription drugs=more perks for doctors.