Party pills BANNED!

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I know what you're saying Hitcher...but do we have such problems with Johnny from Johnsonville making his alcohol and selling it? No.

I've heard of alot of people who are selling home brewed spirits for commercial use getting busted big time. I suspect that Johnny from Johnsonville wold only get away with it for awhile and then it would all turn to shyte for him once a particular bunch of people come knocking on the door...

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'm all for them becoming illegal based on my 4+ years of working in an inpatient psychiatric ward as a registered nurse. Have seen some ugly shit as a result of these pills. I undersrtand that you like them, however there are plenty out there who like other drugs that also cause havoc. Why should these party pills be treated any differently?

Mate....if you think red repping me is a slap on the wrist for my thoughts, so be it. But you saying (in my rep area) if they ban them then the children won't be able to get them tells me how simple you really are.

Do you seriously think the children won't get other substances from people far worse to deal with than places like the local dairy?

Good one.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I've heard of alot of people who are selling home brewed spirits for commercial use getting busted big time. I suspect that Johnny from Johnsonville wold only get away with it for awhile and then it would all turn to shyte for him once a particular bunch of people come knocking on the door...

Sure you have mate. We all read about it every day in the papers. Not.

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Sure you have mate. We all read about it every day in the papers. Not.

I guess that makes you a self confessed expert in the field? Just because you jack shyte, does not mean the rest of us know just as little. I know a few personally who have been done for making large quantities of spirits and then onselling them. Its not the sort of thing to generally make the papers either and if you believe only what the media says, then you must have a warped inaccurate take on life lad...

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Mate....if you think red repping me is a slap on the wrist for my thoughts, so be it. But you saying (in my rep area) if they ban them then the children won't be able to get them tells me how simple you really are.

Do you seriously think the children won't get other substances from people far worse to deal with than places like the local dairy?

Good one.

Once again you show your expertiese? If they are not coming into the country then the kids cannot get them can they? Yea there will allways be arsewipes who make shyte in their own time to make money, but thats nothing new. Simple eh, ask anyone who knows me well, they'll will laugh at that comment and I'm not too perturbed. All I see is one very upset boy throwing his toys out of the cot because Aunty Helen and her brigade has taken your favourite lollies away.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I guess that makes you a self confessed expert in the field? Just because you jack shyte, does not mean the rest of us know just as little. I know a few personally who have been done for making large quantities of spirits and then onselling them. Its not the sort of thing to generally make the papers either and if you believe only what the media says, then you must have a warped inaccurate take on life lad...

I'm an expert on everything. My forte is spotting spinners. And Jack Shyte? I don't know him sorry mate.

[Crasherfromwayback]

. Simple eh, ask anyone who knows me well, they'll will laugh at that comment and I'm not too perturbed. All I see is one very upset boy throwing his toys out of the cot because Aunty Helen and her brigade has taken your favourite lollies away.

Sure mate....and likewise, ask anyone that knows me, and they'll tell you I've never in my life had said lollies. I think red repping someone shows just who's throwing the toys.

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Sure mate....and likewise, ask anyone that knows me, and they'll tell you I've never in my life had said lollies. I think red repping someone shows just who's throwing the toys.

So your just getting upset over getting red rep, oh dear, how sad, never mind...

I'm an expert on everything. My forte is spotting spinners. And Jack Shyte? I don't know him sorry mate.

LOL, not sure if I know them but have met some of their close relatives.

[scumdog]

Mate....if you think red repping me is a slap on the wrist for my thoughts, so be it. But you saying (in my rep area) if they ban them then the children won't be able to get them tells me how simple you really are.

Do you seriously think the children won't get other substances from people far worse to deal with than places like the local dairy?

Good one.

So where did all the kids get party pills from BEFORE they were openly for sale in the shops??????????

And did these same kids use 'other substances' if/when they couldn't get their party pills???

Curious to know your answers...seeing as how you're a self-proclaimed expert an' all..

[rideNroot]

When will the fucking idiots that run our country realise that prohibition is not, and has never been the way to go.

What happens when they ban something that people want? They push it underground.
They lose out on tax that could be used for education about the drug and they lose control over quality and additives. Why are they so fucking stupid to think that banning it will make it go away?

Instead of having a huge amount of control over BZP, they would prefer to have absolutely none, and let gangs and shady characters profit of its sales instead.

Fuckstains like Jim Anderton who crusade around New Zealand stating that puffing on a little weed means you need medical and psychiatric help? Because his daughter killed herself means that the rest of New Zealands youth should never have the right to made their own decisions. Next he will want to ban panadol from the supermarket shelves.

One of his conditions in forming a coalition government was that there would be no law reform in regards to cannabis while he was supporting labour, so as long as shitbuckets like him are around, the government will continue to take the stance of "BAN BAN BAN!", instead of educating people about what they are doing while controlling quality, quantity and who can sell what.

Phew, that just kinda fell out.. lucky this forum is called rant and rave

[edit] guess I should add that I have only ever had party pills once many years ago, and never felt the urge to have them again

[Pixie]

Yep, Jims my hero! Next it'll be alcohol, then ciggies..... Oh hang, they make too much money out of those.... Is no one allowed to make their own decisions anymore?

Drugs are bad.
Millions of Kiwis and cattle have died of BZP and no one has ever died of alcohol and tobacco

[Pixie]

Why the fuck would any one want to take BZP (cattle drench )

must have been some farmer up north and decided mmmmm cattle drench

It's good to see you are a good compliant government drone and believe all the spin you're fed.

Why the fuck would any one want to take aspirin (tree bark)

Why the fuck would any one want to take Taxol (tree bark)

Why the fuck would any one want to take penicillin ( mold)

Why the fuck would any one want to take sulfa drugs ( industrial dyes)

Why the fuck would any one want to take nitroglycerine (high explosive)

But I guess if you were prescribed any of these, or a multitude of other drugs,you wouldn't care where they originated

[Crasherfromwayback]

So where did all the kids get party pills from BEFORE they were openly for sale in the shops??????????

And did these same kids use 'other substances' if/when they couldn't get their party pills???

Curious to know your answers...seeing as how you're a self-proclaimed expert an' all..

Actually SD, I was simply rarking up ILF when saying I'm an 'Expert' on everything. But seeing as you and I had a disagreement the other week, I guess you now want to simply say black whenever I say white yeah?

Kids over the years have always wanted to 'experiment'. I wouldn't mind betting you've at some stage tried tobacco? Maybe as a kid? Alcohol? A bit of weed?

My cousin died two years ago 'huffing' butane. Some sniff glue...petrol....there's mushrooms.....Datura....cactus. It's been going on for ever mate. People will always want to find ways to get 'high'.

The thing is....we didn't have the full on dance rave scene when we were young, like they do now. Kids want to stay up for 2-3 days going hard out.

With that scene....comes (not to every kid obviously) the temptation to have chemical help, both to 'enhance' the buzz...and to prolong it. Over the counter 'highs' have made it cheaper...and for sure, easier to get. While that may have a negative in that more people (and that's yet to be proven) try said 'highs', I seriously believe it's better they do so with these pills than seek the 'real things' off people that are parasites. Dangerous parasites. The 'highs' they peddle....have far more serious ramifications than the ones they're banning. In my opinion.
None of said 'party pills' are mentally or physically addictive. Some of the 'replacement' ones are.

So now I'd like you to tell me in your opinion, just what these kids are going to do when they can't get their 'highs' over the counter.

When will the fucking idiots that run our country realise that prohibition is not, and has never been the way to go.

What happens when they ban something that people want? They push it underground.
They lose out on tax that could be used for education about the drug and they lose control over quality and additives. Why are they so fucking stupid to think that banning it will make it go away?

Instead of having a huge amount of control over BZP, they would prefer to have absolutely none, and let gangs and shady characters profit of its sales instead.

Fuckstains like Jim Anderton who crusade around New Zealand stating that puffing on a little weed means you need medical and psychiatric help? Because his daughter killed herself means that the rest of New Zealands youth should never have the right to made their own decisions. Next he will want to ban panadol from the supermarket shelves.

One of his conditions in forming a coalition government was that there would be no law reform in regards to cannabis while he was supporting labour, so as long as shitbuckets like him are around, the government will continue to take the stance of "BAN BAN BAN!", instead of educating people about what they are doing while controlling quality, quantity and who can sell what.

Phew, that just kinda fell out.. lucky this forum is called rant and rave

[edit] guess I should add that I have only ever had party pills once many years ago, and never felt the urge to have them again

Aye.

[Drew]

Actually SD, I was simply rarking up ILF when saying I'm an 'Expert' on everything. But seeing as you and I had a disagreement the other week, I guess you now want to simply say black whenever I say white yeah?

Kids over the years have always wanted to 'experiment'. I wouldn't mind betting you've at some stage tried tobacco? Maybe as a kid? Alcohol? A bit of weed?

My cousin died two years ago 'huffing' butane. Some sniff glue...petrol....there's mushrooms.....Datura....cactus. It's been going on for ever mate. People will always want to find ways to get 'high'.

The thing is....we didn't have the full on dance rave scene when we were young, like they do now. Kids want to stay up for 2-3 days going hard out.

With that scene....comes (not to every kid obviously) the temptation to have chemical help, both to 'enhance' the buzz...and to prolong it. Over the counter 'highs' have made it cheaper...and for sure, easier to get. While that may have a negative in that more people (and that's yet to be proven) try said 'highs', I seriously believe it's better they do so with these pills than seek the 'real things' off people that are parasites. Dangerous parasites. The 'highs' they peddle....have far more serious ramifications than the ones they're banning. In my opinion.
None of said 'party pills' are mentally or physically addictive. Some of the 'replacement' ones are.

So now I'd like you to tell me in your opinion, just what these kids are going to do when they can't get their 'highs' over the counter.



Aye.

Well said bro, this stuff is always gonna be available to people, so let's try to keep it from more reputable sources, than the likes of your local "tinny House".

[scumdog]

Actually SD, I was simply rarking up ILF when saying I'm an 'Expert' on everything. But seeing as you and I had a disagreement the other week, I guess you now want to simply say black whenever I say white yeah?


None of said 'party pills' are mentally or physically addictive. Some of the 'replacement' ones are.

So now I'd like you to tell me in your opinion, just what these kids are going to do when they can't get their 'highs' over the counter.

Actually CFWB, I never even remembered this 'disagreement' we had the other week, sorry. (Shows how vindictive I really am!)

Party pills can be psychologically addictive BTW

And what do they do when they can't by their 'high' over the counter? Do what they did before -go without. After all, you don't think they gave up another drug to go to the party pills do you??