Bike is dying... Help!

[Breed777]

That was my next guess... Its an 88 GSXR, so are the plugs under the tank? My fuel cock has a ON RES and PRI position, what should it be on if I have to remove the tank?

[phoenixgtr]

ON or RES will be fine if you're taking the tank off, just not PRI. How much fuel did it have in it?

[Breed777]

I filled her up yesterday. like i said rode to the bank today fine... sounds like its trying to start fine just doesnt catch.... never changed the plugs before... so I take off the tank etc.... I wont get fuel spraying everywhere if I remove attched hoses?
What should I look for if its the plugs? (I can get it going just takes a while, so, if its going and idling rough would that be the plugs after its started already?)

[YellowDog]

The cold start hot fail makes me think this could be choke related?

[Mom]

I reckon you should post this thread in yet another forum to see if you can get even more answers

[Breed777]

Thanks....very helpful

[tigertim20]

The basic stuff you can check, is look for crap in the fuel tank, check if your bike has an inline fuel filter, and check whether or not its blocked up. Check your plugs for any dirt/oil or other shit.
How many km's has your bike done? it could be something like worn rings, or carbon clogging the valve seats.
You could also see if anyone else on kiwibiker lives in your area and could come and have a look at it as well.
oh, check to see that you are getting a stong spark on the plugs as well.

[CookMySock]

The cold start hot fail makes me think this could be choke related?

Yeah thats why I was thinking it was flooding, but theres no black smoke. It's happened very suddenly so it's unlikely to be engine mechanicals.

To push start, you need a helper, or a little hill to roll down.. Key on, put the gearbox in second gear, pull the clutch in, and get someone to push you along and let the clutch out suddenly (just dump the clutch lever) and the engine will begin to spin, powered by your helper pushing, or you rolling down the hill. Now it should start easily, or not at all.. Pretty much its what you do if you have a flat battery. When you get more skilled and confident you can push start on your own, or drop the bike.

I'm stumped at this stage. Hard to tell over the 'net.

Steve

[Breed777]

thanks guys.... I can get it started but its just idling and slowly dies.... putting the choke on full or off seems to make no difference.... ok so trying the fuel filter and plugs etc....

1) to check plugs I have to remove the tank right? is there any tricks to it? what do I need to do top stop fuel going everywhere? whats the best way to clean the plugs?

2) Where would I find the Fuel filter?

[Breed777]

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How many km's has your bike done? it could be something like worn rings, or carbon clogging the valve seats.

only done 6000 kms, bought it as a NZ new import from a dealer who had it serviced and Vinned only 120km ago....

[MSTRS:Me]

If you need to be told those few basic things, you are not qualified to to anything yourself. Get a local in, and watch/assist.

[Breed777]

Yeah your probably right.... can much damage be done checking the plugs tho?

[PirateJafa]

Unbolt any fairings that are in the way of you removing your tank, then remove the bolts holding your tank.

Switch the tap to OFF or RES depending on what options you have, then pull off the fuel lines and lift the tank off.

Then use a spanner and sparkplug socket to pull out the plugs and tell us what they're like.

[sil3nt]

You didnt happen to overfill it with gas did you? can't say i know anything about bikes but i do remember reading somewhere that overfilling a tank can lead to bad things on some models. Just a thought!

[Breed777]

Ok, well I got the two bolts of from in front of the seat but after that I am at a loss.... I think I will try and get the bike back to the Dealer I got it from, i have a 3 mth warranty so it should still be covered. Just not sure if I can keep the bike running long eneough to get it there. It keeps dying from Idle.

In an unrealted question, what is the 'box' in the pic, that is under the passenger seat on my bike?

Also have a short quicktime clip of what the bike sounds like trying to start, if you wanna see it just PM me youe email addy....

Thanks for all your help guys, I know how frustrating it must be helping the new guy