Gang patches

**grogan** · 6th May 2009, 23:08

What are the local authorities going to define as a "gang" ?
If I wear a "Manawatu Riders" patch will they think I'm a part of a "gang" ?
If I wear a "Wellington HOG" patch does that mean I'm now in a "gang" if I ride through Wangavegas ? Where do they draw the line ? I guess the devil will be in the detail with this legislation.

**peasea** · 6th May 2009, 23:11

Originally Posted by 98tls

I say bring on the patches,looking forward to seeing the "Red Devils" riding about,

the pics posted on here were funny enough but actually seeing someone with "Red Devil" plastered on there back should well be a riot,bit of luck the first one i see will be wearing Camo gear as well just to make me pull over from stomach contractions.

You know them do ya?

I can point to some very, very cool motorcycle stuff that they've produced. It takes some tenacity to do that shit and as for camo; well, it only goes so far. Both ways.

You can rofl on kb, as I can. A bit of a riot can happen anywhere, complete with contractions.

**mstriumph** · 6th May 2009, 23:13

Originally Posted by peasea

The catholic church will sink without....

.........without boy-an-cy

Religion, not money, is the root of all evil.

hmmmmmmm that gives us a whole new slant on 'the root' of all evil, doesn't it

**FJRider** · 6th May 2009, 23:14

Originally Posted by grogan

What are the local authorities going to define as a "gang" ?
If I wear a "Manawatu Riders" patch will they think I'm a part of a "gang" ?
If I wear a "Wellington HOG" patch does that mean I'm now in a "gang" if I ride through Wangavegas ? Where do they draw the line ? I guess the devil will be in the detail with this legislation.

The decision will be made in that regard, by the "enforcing authority" ... ie. Police. Unless they are as dumb, as some on site may suggest ... I doubt if you will have any worries.

**peasea** · 6th May 2009, 23:18

Originally Posted by grogan

What are the local authorities going to define as a "gang" ?
If I wear a "Manawatu Riders" patch will they think I'm a part of a "gang" ?
If I wear a "Wellington HOG" patch does that mean I'm now in a "gang" if I ride through Wangavegas ? Where do they draw the line ? I guess the devil will be in the detail with this legislation.

I reckon that the biggest problem is, as you suggest, in the definition of 'gang'.

HOG

Ulysses

Police......

Which is the gang?

I wrote to my MP on this fine point and guess what? Nothing, that'ts what.

I got no definition at all, so it's all open-ended and limp.

There's nothing to suggest that anything will change anytime soon.

Go to bed.

**P38** · 6th May 2009, 23:25

Theres no going back now.

I suspect the bylaw will detail a list of banned Gang Patches.

After they have trained all the Meter Maids/ Parking Wardens etc and placed all the relevant signage then they may start to enforce this law.

I also think this will cause a landslide of applications from other councils once one or two succesfull prosecutions have taken place.

Interestingly this law does not cover Gang Colours or Tattoos.

Probally wont accomplish much by itself cos most gang members dont wear there patches in public now. Guess they prefer to keep a low profile.

But I'm pretty sure this is just the begining for the Gangs.

People in NZ seem to have had enough of Gangs and politicians will be studying Whats happening in Oz.

Watch this space .... could get interesting.

**Tony W** · 6th May 2009, 23:28

Originally Posted by mstriumph

actually, i was taking the piss

Well in that case I would just like to add that...

-1%s are a group of motorcycle enthusiasts, in the same way as...

the Mongrel Mob is a group of dog fanciers ... and...

Black Power is an energy supply company !

**Motu** · 6th May 2009, 23:36

Back in the day it came under ''Unlawful Assembly'' - the legislation brought in to control gangs.As far as motorcycles were concerned - it was considered an Unlawful Assembly if more than 4 motorcycles were riding together at one time (I think,may have been more than 3).The only motorcyclists who rode in groups of more than 4 were usually considered motorcycle gang members.You would be stopped,for sure.We rode in staggered groups.

I don't know if that law was repealed - easy to apply an existing law.So how many are on your group rides? Are you a gang?

**avgas** · 6th May 2009, 23:45

all those groups are gangs.

ban em all i say.
Even the devonport yacht club

**peasea** · 6th May 2009, 23:57

Originally Posted by Tony W

Well in that case I would just like to add that...

-1%s are a group of motorcycle enthusiasts, in the same way as...

the Mongrel Mob is a group of dog fanciers ... and...

Black Power is an energy supply company !

Erm!

The term 1%er came about through the non-conformist faction of the AMA, meaning that 99% conformed to the AMA's rules and 1% did not. It's grown from there.

Some motorcycle clubs formed that were 'non-conformist' and therefore 1%ers. A barrier (if you like) has formed that seperates 1%ers from mainstream (if you like) bikers. However, in a democratic society all should be allowed to exist in peace, to "do their own thing in their own time".

Sorry if that sounds too simplistic.

**peasea** · 7th May 2009, 00:05

The DYC eh?

I can remember when all they did was make vinegar, and look at them now!

**Dave Lobster** · 7th May 2009, 06:57

Originally Posted by avgas

all those groups are gangs.

ban em all i say.
Even the devonport yacht club

Have gangs taken over all the yacht clubs now??

**JimO** · 7th May 2009, 07:43

Originally Posted by FJRider

The decision will be made in that regard, by the "enforcing authority" ... ie. Police. Unless they are as dumb, as some on site may suggest ... I doubt if you will have any worries.

hmmmmmmm? whats going to happen, johnny pakaha wandering along with his hog patch on gets stopped and given a battoning or a group of large indigenous fellows sporting their black mongrel power mob regalia just fly past untouched.........thinks of the scene in once were warriers when the Toa gang goes past the cop car with no consequences

**Headbanger** · 7th May 2009, 07:59

Its fucking bullshit.

Fuckers should be locked up or hounded out of town for their criminal activities, who gives a fuck what they wear. Those that they are targeting love being outlaws wtf is another weak law?