Who says Asians are bad drivers?

[Patch]

ever had someone hold a lift for you...

yup - she was pretty cute too


so just because they don't steal your park, its ok to ignore all the other shit they do/cause/don't do??


We could start on those bloody islanders - they're just as fuckin bad, just gotta keep 'em off the white man's plonk

[Brian d marge]

Its that the 'Hole in the Wall Gang'??....think I can make out Butch Carridy and Rundance at the back.

No that be grand pappy Hatfield ........the best god damn driver in the south , his great grandfather Great great grand pappy Hatfield was the best horse and cart driver in all the catlains

Stephen

[Grahameeboy]

Yes, but what are the percentages of each of those groups in the population? I'm pretty sure Maori don't make up 17% of the total population - but then they are over-represented in the crime statistics too. But I find 5% for Pacific peoples odd as I bet there are shitloads more of them around than Maori, especially in Auckland. Maybe they lump them all in as Maori?

Yeah weird cause I didn't think there were any full Maori left so where did
17 % come from....beats me

[Grahameeboy]

yup - she was pretty cute too


so just because they don't steal your park, its ok to ignore all the other shit they do/cause/don't do??


We could start on those bloody islanders - they're just as fuckin bad, just gotta keep 'em off the white man's plonk

I reckon us Whites started the shit in the first place....

[xwhatsit]

Yes, but what are the percentages of each of those groups in the population? I'm pretty sure Maori don't make up 17% of the total population - but then they are over-represented in the crime statistics too.

Er... that's the numbers in the brackets after each percentage I thought you worked with words?

Most dangerous people on the road -- 40-50 year-old man in a business shirt, driving company car.

[RocKai]

Its not like the silly bitch could say "I didnt even see the light" She lived literally 500m from the intersection where she took us out.

Henry, I think you should HTFU and be grateful that she said "Solly" and "Paid" for your damage. If a white bitch had hit you argue her way out of it and make you pay for the damage on her car. Seriously, the arrogance just don't compare.

I live in Wellington and generally Asian drivers I see on the road are not as bad as White drivers, Brown drivers bar the boy racers. The worst drivers on the road are young girls, old womens, couriers.

Red light runners are generally white in most cases I've seen. I beg to differ but it's an opinionated society we have. I even say to myself Asian drivers are shite but it's only a few of them who have little driving experience who caused accident. The major of accidents caused are from other factors than races.

P.S. Star Trek was great. Chew on that ticket. And I'm Asian. Bwahaha

[alanzs]

People rag on asian drivers going too slow but I'd rather have a slow driver on the road than an insane fast one... JMHO...

[Marmoot]

Problem seems systemic, not isolated to particular race.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/n...ectid=10572387

* 40 per cent of men knowingly exceed the speed limit.
* 25 per cent of both men and women say they are impatient drivers.
* 25 per cent of men have momentarily fallen asleep at the wheel.
* 24 per cent of men said they have tailgated another motorist out of anger compared with 17 per cent of women.

Not sure on the race for this one

Look at this weirdlooking asian

An example of no-asian-crash. Note: I am not implying that he's a bad rider at all.

Example of one involving no NZers

Not sure about this

Drivers and their cellphones. Asians and non-asians alike.

Just an example that the driving problem is systemic. There is no supermodel without an arsehole on her. The same way, there is no driving world without arseholes tainting it.

Those that highlights Asians only remember them just because they look different. It is always easier to notice a red dot in the middle of a white paper.

[gatch]

Ma grand pappy Taught me to drive .. Yeeeeeehaaaaa

he be the one on the front ( without the gun )

Stephen

I love the photo man, the dudes in the background pointing pistols at kids heads lol. And the dude with the shotgun ? pointing it straight at the other dudes spam-javelin. Wouldn't wanna fuck with that family lol.

Edit - Bwaaahahahahaha just noticed the kid in front with the pistol, also pointed at that poor mans trouser snake..

[gatch]

People rag on asian drivers going too slow but I'd rather have a slow driver on the road than an insane fast one... JMHO...

I'd rather be insane and driving fast, these roads are mine FTW.

[The Stranger:Me]

It was a snap shot, however, what it is telling us is the percentage of ethnic groups involved in injury / casualty crashes so given the big difference between Asians and European NZers it is not unreasonable to suggest that Asians are not the main culprits / cause of accidents / bad drivers

Bullshit.
It tells us nothing of the percentage of asians in the general population, nor is there a comparison of the number of KM travelled by each group. Even with that there would be so many other variables not covered that it is useless.

What we can tell from this however is some people are very easily to mislead with statistics.

[Marmoot]

What we can tell from this however is some people are very easily to mislead with statistics.

The sole purpose of statistics is to support your assertion.

As such, there is no such thing as ambiguity in statistics. The meanings are always definite, depending on where you approach them.

[xwhatsit]

Bullshit.
It tells us nothing of the percentage of asians in the general population, nor is there a comparison of the number of KM travelled by each group. Even with that there would be so many other variables not covered that it is useless.

What we can tell from this however is some people are very easily to mislead with statistics.

Am I missing something? Did you miss something? Did I miss missing something?

The percentage of ethnic group in the general population is the number in the brackets after the first numbers.

I've posted that twice now. I must've missed something and now look like a fool.



In terms of being misled by statistics, those statistics are about as plain and bare as you get. Percentage of road casualties/fatalities by ethnic group -- one number, and percentage of that same ethnic group in the general population, another number. Given that there's no interpretation of them (other than Gaymeboy's), if you just take the numbers as they are, what do you see that's wrong with them? Obviously, car ownership rates/miles driven by ethnic group would be interesting to see. Taking those factors into account (so allowing a few percentage points either way), road casualties seem pretty much aligned with what you'd expect from their percentage of general population (apart from Maori, who are well over what you would expect). I.e. there's sweet fuck-all difference.

Here's the statistics reformatted for people who don't read too well:

Ethnicity	Road casualties makeup	Percentage of general population
Asian	7%	9.2%
European	69%	67.6%
Maori	17%	14.6%
Pacific	5%	6.9%
Others	2%	1.7%

At the end of the day, all of those percentages are close enough to their makeup in the general population to say there's no difference. Asians seem to be having slightly less road fatalities than they should (but car ownership rates could be skewing that) and Europeans and Maoris seem to be having more road fatalities than they should (but Europeans and Maoris love to drive and own cars so that would skew that too).

[YellowDog]

I don't like the term 'Asian' as it implies than an Indian, Pakistani, Malaysian, Japanese, and a Chinaman (plus a hundred other countries) are all the same. Quite insulting really. And as for AustralASIANs..........

So lets not be racist. Let's be racist AND sexist. My observation is that female car drivers of oriental extraction are (in my experience) CRAP DRIVERS.

[The Stranger:Me]

Am I missing something? Did you miss something? Did I miss missing something?

The percentage of ethnic group in the general population is the number in the brackets after the first numbers.

I am wrong on that count - You are quite correct, however, it still does not however address the distance travelled or a number of other points.