Cornering - what happens after the lean.

[James Deuce]

Stop thinking so hard, it takes all the fun out of it.

[discotex]

First things first... Try to avoid being in that situation in the first place. You've almost certainly mis-read the road if you need to tighten your line mid corner.

Basically your options are more counter-steering inputs on the bars and/or move your hear more into the inside of the corner. You'll be amazed how much your line tightens when you stick your head out another 3 inches.

Do a trackday and practice in a safe environment

[Lurch]

Do a trackday and practice in a safe environment

I might if I wasn't riding a GT250R

If I still had the RG I'd consider it. I've still got 10mm chicken strips on the Hyobag's rear (not a shinko) so it's not like I'm talking about MotoGP degrees of cornering here

[EJT]

Good on you asking for validation. Better than learning the hard way. And don't let riding a Hyo put you off track days. A few on this site have done it!!

[riffer]

Most people have given good advice here. The best one of course is to read the corner right in the first place but hey, these are the takas - I've been riding them 20 years and I still can't get them right.

I've found the best bet is to push harder on the bars, lead with the shoulder and really weight that inside peg and - this one is important - make sure you're looking where you want to be ...

and above all - DON'T PANIC. You'll fuck everything up. On the takas there's another corner coming so you'll quickly find yourself out of control for that next one too. The secret to the takas is to be as smooth as you possibly can - it's not a road that likes throttle - brake - throttle.

Definitely read Twist of the Wrist. It really does help. Immensely.

[6ft5]

There must be some mentors in Wellington to help you
Get someone to ride with you and give you some pointers

Hey get in touch with Andrew Templeton (www.roadsafe.co.nz), he is a fabulous instructor or coach and can help you get the most out if a session.

[discotex]

I might if I wasn't riding a GT250R

There's nothing wrong with a GT250R on the track. Sure you're not going to be in the fast groups but there's plenty of slower 250's in group 4 on a MotoTT day.

[quickbuck]

First things first... Try to avoid being in that situation in the first place. You've almost certainly mis-read the road if you need to tighten your line mid corner.

Basically your options are more counter-steering inputs on the bars and/or move your hear more into the inside of the corner. You'll be amazed how much your line tightens when you stick your head out another 3 inches.

Do a trackday and practice in a safe environment

This man has the best answer thus far.....

I used to shut the throttle... BAD! Very BAD! (was when I was much younger though).
Then I graduated to Pushing on the inside bar.... Bad, but sometimes necessary.

Best thing to do is prevent the situation from happening... Turn it in later, and faster!

If it does tighten on you, weight inside is good. This merely (well dramatically) moves the C of G. Last resort is to tip in in more... you may well be closer to grinding something down than you first thought...

Recommended reading: Twist of the Wrist 2, Keith Code. (Yes, another recommendation... it is THAT good!)
Now I'm off to read the other recommended book....

[caseye]

All the answers here confirm your original thoughts.Trust those instincts mate.
Ride safe always though especially on the Taka's.

[Lurch]

Hey get in touch with Andrew Templeton (www.roadsafe.co.nz), he is a fabulous instructor or coach and can help you get the most out if a session.

Lots of great replies, thx all. Did the full day option to get my BHS with Andrew last year, I will most likely go back and do one of his advanced courses some day.

[CookMySock]

I've still got 10mm chicken strips on the Hyobag's rear (not a shinko) so it's not like I'm talking about MotoGP degrees of cornering here

If you have your weight out, it's quite hard to get at those last 10mm on the Hyos. I scrape boot tips before I touch that last 10mm, but I stick my webbed feet out too far methinks.

Yep, always steer with the bars. Add weight-out but don't move it mid-corner unless you are well practiced at it or will jiggle the bike badly.

That said, if you get a bad fright, by all means get all the weight off the inside the bike you are able - and then grip the bars and steer the fucker.

Steve

[lankyman]

Remember target fixation too. In this sort of situation it is easy to shift you're gaze to the outer edge of the corner that you feel like you could be heading towards. Keep you're eyes fixed on you're chosen line, add a little more pressure to the inside bar, and resist that intinctly urge to grab the brakes. Like Mystic13 said, you'll probably scrape a peg and discover a new limit of you're cornering potential.

[Skyryder]

If ya gonna use racing teckniques on the road sooner or later ya gonna come to grief. However your call so if ya over cook don't think, by the time ya figured what ya gotta do it'll will be too late. Stay focussed on the v p on the bend and look where ya wanna go.


Skyryder

[James Deuce]

In amongst the admirable desire to equip a n00b with super bike riding powers, there's the very real danger of information overload. How about somebody with a brain goes for a ride with the chap in question and practices stitching the various techniques together?

[MVnut]

In amongst the admirable desire to equip a n00b with super bike riding powers, there's the very real danger of information overload. How about somebody with a brain goes for a ride with the chap in question and practices stitching the various techniques together?

Great answer