Who gives way to whom?

[mrchips]

blue has right of way.... but then again it would feel like you're playing chicken.

[Ragingrob]

RED has to conceed to BLUE.

BLUE has a straight line route but RED has to cross a centre line .

Also the RED car looks like a HOLDEN and we all know HOLDENS have to give way to FORDS.

Why dont people choose a GREEN car anymore ???

Blue has a straight line route in physical terms, but if you are leaving a road you are technically turning.

Mate I had to shut down the Mac, restart it in windows, just to use paint, red and blue were not getting a choice!

[Ragingrob]

blue has right of way.... but then again it would feel like you're playing chicken.

I guess it's quite similar to when you're at an uncontrolled T intersection where you are turning right out of the side street and someone's turning right into it. Technically you should turn right in front of him, but that would probably be putting you straight into their path as not too many people look to check whether the road they're turning into is controlled or not!

Wait... Blue has right of way?! Why?

[dpex]

I consider myself pretty onto it in terms of road rules, they all make sense to me and seem easy enough. Here is one intersection just down from my place where I'd be keen to see what the general consensus is.

Pretty much, these cars are technically on the same road as the centre line signifies. The red car is turning right off the main road into the side street and the blue car is going straight through into the side street. Or would you call that turning left off the main road as going "straight" signifies staying on the main road??

So who gives way?

I would be thinking that the red car has right of way as the blue car must give way to their right... What do you guys think? The other thought could be that since the blue car is going 'straight', they just go for it, but I don't like this idea as both cars are turning off the main road.

Opinions/Comments wanted!



EDIT:

Quoted from the road code:

"If you are turning at an intersection, give way to all vehicles not turning"

"If you are leaving the path of a marked centre line, you are turning. You must give way to vehicles that are following the centre line"

"If you are turning left at an intersection, give way to vehicles coming towards you that are turning right"

So from those three points, we have to say that the blue car is technically turning. They are definitely not turning right, so they must be turning left. Therefore, they must give way to the red car turning right.

Haha, guess I solved it myself!

Any disagreements? I'm keen to hear.

It's a fairly unusual road set-up but, because both cars are on the 'main-road, as designated by the centre-line, the road to the right is, in fact, a left turn and so Blue should give way. However, if I was the driver of the red, I'd just let blue go.

There's no sweeter taste than that of justified outrage,(ask Katman) but I imagine, if red pushed his luck and took the high-road, the sweet taste of red's justified outrage, after the collision, might be rather badly tainted with the coppery taste of blood.

But it was a good Q.

[Sidewinder]

you always give way to the biggger vecile! like a big red van!

[Maha]

We have a roading situation similar to that here in Warkworth.
At times I am the Blue vehicle, and I (by law) have to indicate that I am technically turning left. Visually I am not but I am leaving Neville st and entering Percy st (which is straight ahead) so I have to give way to the Red vehicle, if the Red vehicle is free to turn.

So......Blue gives way. Red is not on a stop or give way.

[Noidy]

[QUOTE=Ragingrob;1129219683]Blue has a straight line route in physical terms, but if you are leaving a road you are technically turning.QUOTE]

Blue is not "leaving the road". Rule of centre line. Blue (even though cornering not turning) does not cross the centre line. Red does cross and and therefore must give way

[Ixion]

From the Road Code

Leaving the path of the centre line at an uncontrolled intersection

If you are leaving the path of a marked centre line at an uncontrolled intersection, you must give way to vehicles following the centre line. This is because vehicles leaving the path of the centre line are legally turning (even though sometimes they might actually be going in a straight line) and the give way rules apply

Which vehicle here is following the continuous centre line and which vehicle is crossing the centre line ? Hmm ?

There is one such interection (even sneakier because it is a Y intersection near here, where the driving testers take candidates. More than one has failed that test.

It should be straight forward.

[Patch]

assuming the red car is a commie asian immigrant the blue driver should fuckin floor it before the prick pulls out in front of 'im.

[Ixion]

No risk of that. Firstly I doubt there are any *commie* Asian immigrants. They are all decidedly of the free market persuasion. Where have you encountered any Communist ones?

Secondly if it were an Asian immigrant driving there would be no need for either vehicle to give way. The red car has it's right indicator going. Which in the case of an Asian immigrnat means that it is about to turn left. Or possibly reverse.

[Ragingrob]

From the Road Code



Which vehicle here is following the continuous centre line and which vehicle is crossing the centre line ? Hmm ?

There is one such interection (even sneakier because it is a Y intersection near here, where the driving testers take candidates. More than one has failed that test.

It should be straight forward.

Neither car is following the centre line, both are leaving the main road, both are going into the side road on the left of my picture.

[Ragingrob]

Blue is not "leaving the road". Rule of centre line. Blue (even though cornering not turning) does not cross the centre line. Red does cross and and therefore must give way

Once again, Blue is technically turning as it's leaving the main road as the centre line shows. Your argument completely fails the give way rule in terms of when turning left you must give way to those turning right infront of you, who are in fact the only ones crossing the centre line!

[Ixion]

No such thing in law as a main road or side road. They've not existed for over 60 years. Amazing how many people keep insisting on reinventing this archaic theory.

Question is , is there a continuous centre line ? Your sketch isn't quite clear. It appears that there is a continuous centre line around the curve . If so, the blue car is following the centr eline and has right of way. But if the line stops, then it is a T intersection.

[Noidy]

Once again, Blue is technically turning as it's leaving the main road as the centre line shows. Your argument completely fails the give way rule in terms of when turning left you must give way to those turning right infront of you, who are in fact the only ones crossing the centre line!

Oops. misread your picture. I would have to agree with you

[MaxB]

What Mr Ixion says.

But for the erasing of a line in the road then it switches over to red.

The sooner we fall into line with other countries on this the better.