Some more ideas on growing the Nationals

[Shaun]

There are some great ideas here, are there any people motivated to do anything about them?

Shaun; you are a busy man I know, but ups or downs, you have consistantly said you were all about the sport.


By no means would I blame any of you for not bothering, or anyone else for that matter, but should we expect anything from this discussion, or settle into the status quoe?...

Yes and NO mate. I am into the sport big time, love it, and it has loved me.

I have put a reasnoable effort in, in the past to try and help the sport along, but certain people did not turn up for the party? POLITICS and hot heads you mention ( WERE do I fit in that arena) I was/are still one, BUT now realise there is a time and place for every thing!

SO YES, I AM PREPARED TO SUPPORT A TEAM NETWORK ENVIROMENT

Lets sit back and await the out come of the MNZ meeting perhaps, before WE all go rushing around to much, a LOT can and MAY change after that date, RE Road Racing as we know it today?

[scrivy]

I am into the sport big time, love it, and it has loved me.

Shit Shaun, get a room mate.......

[Drew]

Lets sit back and await the out come of the MNZ meeting perhaps, before WE all go rushing around to much, a LOT can and MAY change after that date, RE Road Racing as we know it today?

I'll have to take your word for it that things might change, but I submit this for thought.

If us racers, and supporters such as yourself are gonna just sit back, we dont get to bitch about what happens, same as we shouldn't be doing now.

[scrivy]

If us racers, and supporters such as yourself are gonna just sit back, we dont get to bitch about what happens, same as we shouldn't be doing now.

I agree.

We should all be doing something which we are not at present. We shouldn't be sitting on our laurels, we should stand up to the task at hand!
If we all go in the same direction, who knows, we may actually end up in the same place.............
We should all do something that we are not doing now, and do things for tomorrow that hadn't even happened yesterday. Why we may even enjoy it!!
I'd like to do things I haven't even thought about yet....... or maybe thought about, but not done......

er....... ok, I'm confused........ moving on........ as you were.......

[wharfy]

I agree.

We should all be doing something which we are not at present. We shouldn't be sitting on our laurels, we should stand up to the task at hand!
We should all do something that we are not doing now, and do things for tomorrow that hadn't even happened yesterday. Why we may even enjoy it!!
I'd like to do things I haven't thought about yet....... or maybe thought about, but not done......

er....... ok, I'm confused........ moving on........ as you were.......

Yeah I agree, I've got ideas I haven't even thought of yet ....

[JayRacer37]

I agree. If clubs say yes to it do you think they'd get many complaints from their club champ racers? If it's getting in the way they are worried about, don't mind me, I'll be happy to find a way around. If it's getting lapped then we could go back to having 3 shorter races.

I agree with you, we would find a way round. Yeah, as I've said before, I would be keen on 3 shorter races, it makes it more fair at the end of the championship as more points are up for grabs.

[AndrewStroud]

So True, so what time today will you be making the phone to call, to find out if they could be interested in this idea then?

made the call. Very positive too. I wouldn't be surprised if we could make something work.

[JayRacer37]

made the call. Very positive too. I wouldn't be surprised if we could make something work.

Well done!

[Quasievil]

Sheesh go to the track for one day and come back and look what ya done............made some Phone calls SWEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTT

In reference to an earlier post Im keen willing and hopefully able to contribute to any ideas with my time and efforts for any agreed goal (however there is plenty of people more qualified) but for whats its worth Im not all talk lol

[jellywrestler]

Lots of good thoughts and yea I can see some realistic potential evolving.
Or if 600's are happy to race with Superbikes then we ask Motorsport NZ if they could look to include us in two of their NZV8 meetings - 600 & S/B's in the same race.
- The NZGP meeting with double points for the GP races. (and double points for S.I. Cup competitors)
- The NZ TT (with double points) as THE BIG EVENT... bring in the circus.

Great idea about the double points for the T.T. & G.P., that'll add to their status they deserve and used to get when they were a standalone event before getting swallowed up in the nationals.
As for the car races its an interesting move but what about the debris on the track these events produce?
A few years ago bikes fronted up at pukekohe for a car bike truck meeting and in the dry there was a lot of rubber off line and sometimes on it too as the bike lines were different and when the rain came down the fuel residue, that is a by product of the big car races, became super slippery way more so than at any bike event...

[jellywrestler]

I'd like to do things I haven't thought about yet....... or maybe thought about, but not done......

er....... ok, I'm confused........ moving on........ as you were.......

time to take your pills again it sounds!!!

[Shaun]

made the call. Very positive too. I wouldn't be surprised if we could make something work.

Positive action, thanks mate. A lot of people are out there to jump on board and help.

Many things have been said in this thread that Could/Would work to change/improve things, it just simply NEEDS that Change!

For every reaction is an action, enjoy mate, YOU may have started your future, thanks for coming to play

[AndrewStroud]

Great idea about the double points for the T.T. & G.P., that'll add to their status they deserve and used to get when they were a standalone event before getting swallowed up in the nationals.
As for the car races its an interesting move but what about the debris on the track these events produce?
A few years ago bikes fronted up at pukekohe for a car bike truck meeting and in the dry there was a lot of rubber off line and sometimes on it too as the bike lines were different and when the rain came down the fuel residue, that is a by product of the big car races, became super slippery way more so than at any bike event...

From the initial discussion there could be 3 car meetings we could potentially join.
- Pukekohe 7th Nov NZV8's.
- Ruapuna 29th Nov NZV8's
- Taupo 7th Feb Toyota International series, GT1.??.....

I hear there is to be live TV this coming season for Sunday's racing at NZV8 meetings. Bike's may need to pay a couple of grand or so each meeting to be included in the TV but it would be a lot less than what it costs to have a TV crew turn up solely for bikes.

Of the above 3 meetings I'd aim towards the Ruapuna and Taupo rounds.
I'd be reluctant to look at Puke as it could be pretty unforgiving if there was any debris / oil on the track as you mentioned.
Having said that I can't recall having any problems at all during the car /bike meetings that I've raced at in the past. I didn't do the one at Puke that you mentioned. Any rubber that came off tyes ended up on the outside of the track and well off line for bikes.
Pity though it looks like the Ruapuna date is the same weekend as the Burt Munro. Would have been ideal if they were a week apart.

What else??????????

[AndrewStroud]

Positive action, thanks mate. A lot of people are out there to jump on board and help.

Many things have been said in this thread that Could/Would work to change/improve things, it just simply NEEDS that Change!

For every reaction is an action, enjoy mate, YOU may have started your future, thanks for coming to play

You're welcome Shaun, It would be great if together we can come up with a plan that really stacks for the future so it can be put forward to the people who are making the discisions.
One important issue i see that would be good to have some more feed back on is;

Running a Control treaded tyre It really makes sense to me.
- Riders would most likely get a good deal buying them.
- use less tyres
- Sell them on to street riders
- Know it's a level playing field and you're on the same rubber as everyone else

[cowpoos]

Running a Control treaded tyre It really makes sense to me.
- Riders would most likely get a good deal buying them.
- use less tyres
- Sell them on to street riders
- Know it's a level playing field and you're on the same rubber as everyone else

Can I suggest a control rear shock and fork valving for the privateer classes to...eg: ractech gold valves for the forks...and non ttx36 ohlins shocks or Whitepower equivilent,etc [PR46X ?? robert?]...should half the price of suspension. while still making a massive improvement over stock...and probally not far behind full cartridges and TTX shock..