Poll on control race tyres. yes/no?

[Tony.OK]

On second thoughts I think the tyres im running are an advantage so im changing my mind...

Nah your just more talented and have a cool bike bro

[cowpoos]

On second thoughts I think the tyres im running are an advantage so im changing my mind...

lol...I was waiting for someone to make a point along those lines...

Why are your tyres an advantage?

[CHOPPA]

lol...I was waiting for someone to make a point along those lines...

Why are your tyres an advantage?

Ive used a bunch of different brands already and for longevity, grip, size and profile of tyres Dunlop is the best imo...

[AndrewStroud]

Okay...this is to see what people think about the control tyre debate.
Re post #239 onwards

So just vote in the above poll...see what the opinion is.

Poll is Multi choice...you can select more than one option...and if you feel like it...post why you choose what you did or didin't??

Great idea Ryan,
I voted yes though it's a little tricky to vote when we don't know what the deal is.
eg There maybe nothing offered worth considering or for some funny reason a NZ wholesaler may manage to get the mothership (ie Pirelli Italy, Dunlop UK, Michelin France ...etc) involved and keen on the idea.. then you don't know what could come of it. Whats say they could offer tyres at a price that is the same as they could be sold on for when used, effectively giving racers a tyre bill of $0. They can provide tyres that work really well and last for ages.....sponsor the class and provide prize money. ?????
Optimistic I know. But if you don't ask you don't know.
At present some riders in S/B can easily use 10 new soft compound tyres in a meeting if they chose to. It makes it hard for up and coming riders.
I suggested the idea because it could well benefit 90% of the field, - probably at the expense of us sponsored riders. However it could well be one of the factors that could turn the series around.
You can see it is not just a yes / no vote. You need to add a box that asks the question, Should it be put up for tender?

[cowpoos]

You can see it is not just a yes / no vote. You need to add a box that asks the question, Should it be put up for tender?

Yep...Your right. The intention of the poll was to find if there was enough people who supported the potential of the idea. Having the link to your first post about it, in the other thread...I would have hoped people would have read through the information to balance their own opinion.

Alot of people would have read posts and just agreed and not replied or posted anything in support or not in support. So by getting a idea of how many people are for or against..can give people interested in perusing this further a reason to or not too.

I think [personally] that it has alot of merit...but it would still depend on what could be worked out with suppliers...if no one what to step up to the plate with a good deal...then I doubt anyone will be happy about it...then it just won't wash with the racers so...it would be a resounding no!

[Shaun]

Just a thought on this idea

Some riders only like what they like as tyres RE Simon Crafer for example

So how about a control of amount used only, and then the riders get to choose which brand they would like to race on?

NZ is very small, and to limit the brand of tyre the rider wants to use, will only be causing an off spin to our recession at the moment I think.

I thiink Re the SB class, the tyre amount that is used needs to be contolled more, as Andrew has said, some riders can really chew through there tyres

I know when I raced, I went out in EVERY test session with the latest best spec tyre I could use, so I could always be going as fast as I possibly could, ( And that cost ME a lot of money)

[Two Smoker]

I agree with Shaun. Its the amount of tyres that have to be limited to a weekend, rather than just having a single control tyre. NZ only has 4 million people in it remember...

Its not really a problem in 600's as I see it...

[speedracerjimmy]

Just a thought on this idea

Some riders only like what they like as tyres RE Simon Crafer for example

So how about a control of amount used only, and then the riders get to choose which brand they would like to race on?

NZ is very small, and to limit the brand of tyre the rider wants to use, will only be causing an off spin to our recession at the moment I think.

I thiink Re the SB class, the tyre amount that is used needs to be contolled more, as Andrew has said, some riders can really chew through there tyres

I know when I raced, I went out in EVERY test session with the latest best spec tyre I could use, so I could always be going as fast as I possibly could, ( And that cost ME a lot of money)

I agree with shaun.
nz is pretty small and having a control tyre will hurt the wholesaler,retailer and most likely the riders as well.For example the riders out there that say run pirelli tyres generally run the brand of leathers and helmet etc that this wholesaler brings in because they usually do some kind of sponsership package for the rider.but if say pirelli missed out on being the tyre for the series they might get pissed and pull all there sponsership meaning those guys that where getting the cheap leathers and helmets get nothing.Also there market for tyres would be limited to only club racers who then would have to pay more for these tyres because they wouldnt bring in so many etc.
I would like to see the amount of tyres limited tho.I reckon for sbk and 600 it should be two sets which have to do qualifying and the two races.

[JayRacer37]

Just a thought on this idea

Some riders only like what they like as tyres RE Simon Crafer for example

So how about a control of amount used only, and then the riders get to choose which brand they would like to race on?

NZ is very small, and to limit the brand of tyre the rider wants to use, will only be causing an off spin to our recession at the moment I think.

I thiink Re the SB class, the tyre amount that is used needs to be contolled more, as Andrew has said, some riders can really chew through there tyres

I know when I raced, I went out in EVERY test session with the latest best spec tyre I could use, so I could always be going as fast as I possibly could, ( And that cost ME a lot of money)

I agree with Shaun. Its the amount of tyres that have to be limited to a weekend, rather than just having a single control tyre. NZ only has 4 million people in it remember...

Its not really a problem in 600's as I see it...

I agree with shaun.
nz is pretty small and having a control tyre will hurt the wholesaler,retailer and most likely the riders as well.For example the riders out there that say run pirelli tyres generally run the brand of leathers and helmet etc that this wholesaler brings in because they usually do some kind of sponsership package for the rider.but if say pirelli missed out on being the tyre for the series they might get pissed and pull all there sponsership meaning those guys that where getting the cheap leathers and helmets get nothing.Also there market for tyres would be limited to only club racers who then would have to pay more for these tyres because they wouldnt bring in so many etc.
I would like to see the amount of tyres limited tho.I reckon for sbk and 600 it should be two sets which have to do qualifying and the two races.

Yep,

Agree with all of the above 100%. Limit the amount of tyres, not the type.

[DEATH_INC.]

Yep,

Agree with all of the above 100%. Limit the amount of tyres, not the type.

Me too, when I can afford to race I run whatever I can get my hands on with the cash I have....if I ever get to a national, it'll be the same, so I don't need to be told I must spend $XXX on certain tyres too....
Besides, this is nz, I really don't see it changing anything.

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

Me too, Limit the numbers not the type, brand or compound.

[Maido]

Yep,

Agree with all of the above 100%. Limit the amount of tyres, not the type.

^^ this, can i cange my vote now?

[Shaun P]

Yep,

Agree with all of the above 100%. Limit the amount of tyres, not the type.

What about a price cap for a set of tyres, with guidelines to being commercially available with a resonable commitment from competitors?

[JayRacer37]

What about a price cap for a set of tyres, with guidelines to being commercially available with a resonable commitment from competitors?

How could it work? Do you mean to limit the amount that racers can spend on a pair of tyres? I'm not really sure I understand what you mean?

[Shaun P]

How could it work? Do you mean to limit the amount that racers can spend on a pair of tyres? I'm not really sure I understand what you mean?

Dunno just putting some ideas out there really. How about a max rrp price cap for a set of tyres? so if say a certain brand is over a $1000 dollars retail, it could be thought to be too expensive, of course the cheaper racers can get them for the better.