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    Problem is in this country you can't sue a doctor for failing to pick up on your cancer or whatever. If you believe something is wrong then you have the right to get a second opinion. Otherwise we would be sueing for everything. Your banana has a bruise on it, sue the checkout operator who should have spotted it. Cops are human too. Mistakes will be made the question needs to be if it was you or I in his position how would we want to be treated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquiztador View Post
    The doctor says sorry. You sue him as he should have known better.
    Yeah right - good luck there, this is NZ.
    You struggle to find another doctor to support your cause as they stick together like shit to a blanket. He comes before the Medical Association (which of course exists to protect doctors form us, not the other way around - much like a law society or MVDI etc) and is disciplined with a $50.00 fine and costs of several thousand dollars (if in the very unlikely event they find he did any wrong at all) all the while continuing practising.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tank
    You say "no one wants to fuck with some large bloke on a really angry sounding bike" but the truth of the matter is that you are a balding middle-aged ice-cream seller from Edgecume who wears a hello kitty t-shirt (in your profile pic) and your angry sounding bike is a fucken hyoshit - not some big assed harley with a human skull on the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpex View Post

    I intend to contact Mr Bridgens (I believe that is his name) to establish if he intends to appeal this appalling sentence. And, if he is, I will be offering a grand toward his legal costs because I believe manifest injustice sucks.
    Actions speak louder than words!

    How did those kiddes go at Puke anyway? I note you were keen to post the idea, but I missed the followup on your action.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tank
    You say "no one wants to fuck with some large bloke on a really angry sounding bike" but the truth of the matter is that you are a balding middle-aged ice-cream seller from Edgecume who wears a hello kitty t-shirt (in your profile pic) and your angry sounding bike is a fucken hyoshit - not some big assed harley with a human skull on the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerousbastard View Post
    put the grand into another 600cc bike or similar, and keep doing the kids thing.
    +2........
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    The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breed777 View Post
    Problem is in this country you can't sue a doctor for failing to pick up on your cancer or whatever. If you believe something is wrong then you have the right to get a second opinion. Otherwise we would be sueing for everything. Your banana has a bruise on it, sue the checkout operator who should have spotted it. Cops are human too. Mistakes will be made the question needs to be if it was you or I in his position how would we want to be treated?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger View Post
    Yeah right - good luck there, this is NZ.
    You struggle to find another doctor to support your cause as they stick together like shit to a blanket. He comes before the Medical Association (which of course exists to protect doctors form us, not the other way around - much like a law society or MVDI etc) and is disciplined with a $50.00 fine and costs of several thousand dollars (if in the very unlikely event they find he did any wrong at all) all the while continuing practising.
    Yes, I do realise that. It was more a indication on who has the responsibility here. I would expect someone who has the education/training to know the right thing to do. As with the police in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquiztador View Post
    Yes, I do realise that. It was more a indication on who has the responsibility here.
    Precisely!
    No one.

    This is NZ, no one is responsible for anything here. Hey we only follow the example set by our great leaders.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tank
    You say "no one wants to fuck with some large bloke on a really angry sounding bike" but the truth of the matter is that you are a balding middle-aged ice-cream seller from Edgecume who wears a hello kitty t-shirt (in your profile pic) and your angry sounding bike is a fucken hyoshit - not some big assed harley with a human skull on the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breed777 View Post
    Problem is in this country you can't sue a doctor for failing to pick up on your cancer or whatever. If you believe something is wrong then you have the right to get a second opinion. Otherwise we would be sueing for everything. Your banana has a bruise on it, sue the checkout operator who should have spotted it. Cops are human too. Mistakes will be made the question needs to be if it was you or I in his position how would we want to be treated?
    I agree...Cops are human too....not robots...we cannot expect them to be super human....we are whatever we do primarily human and a cops uniform does not change that and I think it is harsh to expect a better level of "human" from cops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98tls View Post
    This is well outta hand,as ive said before he made a mistake,.
    New Zealand - the land where there is always an excuse and you never need to take responsibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger View Post
    Precisely!
    No one.

    This is NZ, no one is responsible for anything here. Hey we only follow the example set by our great leaders.
    I agree with the "responsibility" issue in NZ....but that is not to me the key issue here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie View Post
    New Zealand - the land where there is always an excuse and you never need to take responsibility.
    In general I agree....the land of the long white lie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maki View Post
    An officer of the law is there to SERVE AND PROTECT the public. Not put people lives in danger on revenue gathering excersises.
    to SERVE AND PROTECT is an American police moto.
    In NZ,many,not all,cops adhere to SERVE ourselves AND PROTECT our arses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquiztador View Post
    Yes, I do realise that. It was more a indication on who has the responsibility here. I would expect someone who has the education/training to know the right thing to do. As with the police in this case.
    Guess it could not just have been an accident....education and training still don't make you unfailable.....

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    the cop has no sympathy from me.

    The timing of "retiring" from the force is interesting in relation too golden handshakes etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    Guess it could not just have been an accident....education and training still don't make you unfailable.....
    That is true. But it does not wash.

    When we are studying we are secure in the knowledge that the people doing the education has a higher level of knowledge then we have, they have degrees, masters etc that are far above what we are at that time trying to achieve.

    In same fashion I would expect an officer of the law to know right from wrong and be a much better judge of risks then I am. If you are telling me that he does not have this knowledge (or even is expected to have it) then he is just another guy with more power then others. And that is not how it works. Any job we take comes with responibility. If you are not up to it, dont take the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquiztador View Post
    That is true. But it does not wash.

    When we are studying we are secure in the knowledge that the people doing the education has a higher level of knowledge then we have, they have degrees, masters etc that are far above what we are at that time trying to achieve.

    In same fashion I would expect an officer of the law to know right from wrong and be a much better judge of risks then I am. If you are telling me that he does not have this knowledge (or even is expected to have it) then he is just another guy with more power then others. And that is not how it works. Any job we take comes with responibility. If you are not up to it, dont take the job.
    This is the real world...he joined the force by qualifying. He was a cop for 30 years...don't tell me you expect him to be constant all this time."Better judge of risks than me"....we were not at the scene...in a Criminal Court they have to decide beyond all reasonable doubt and it is fair to say he did make a mistake...but like I said we are all human whether we have degrees, qualifications etc....people are trained to do the right things but at same time we are not like I said earlier robots...He was judged and punished but does that make him a bad cop..."No"

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