Stolen Bikes!

[Rayray401]

Simple. There are no consequences. The thieves that get caught just don't show up for their court appearances and they wouldn't pay any fines that were dished out if they did show up.

true true...failed justice system

[Insanity_rules]

Simple. There are no consequences. The thieves that get caught just don't show up for their court appearances and they wouldn't pay any fines that were dished out if they did show up.

There'd be bloody consequences if someone stole my current bike I can tell you that for free. I don't use the police and I'm a sociopath.

[Brian d marge]

David Carter, a Christchurch MP, a few years ago told my parents after one of my bikes was flogged that without theft there would be no second hand market so guess why they let the crims away.

I know David Carter very well and lets Just say he has a tenous grasp on reality,

Try this one for size, student loans , back in the day Student loans are ok , but without a network of grants and subsidies ( given , loaned and payed back at differing rates the student loan system will fail

David said ahh yes but its only 25% ( which lets face it at that time was on an engineering course about 1200 a year ....)

I said to him 25% of a lot of course fees and text fees and incidentals WAS a lot of money More than his 1200

He could not and would not make the connection

Jobs for the boys ,,,,

Stephen

[gwigs]

Funnily enough I was thinking about bike theft today and realised it wouldnt be hard to target a particular bike or car for that matter...all a thief needs to do is to go to the post office with the reg no of the vehicle they
are after..you fill out a form ,pay 2 dollars and you can have all the details i.e. address...stake it out and ...
would pay to have a different address registered to where it is kept.

[Renegade]

i think it works like this,

You have your standard bikes that are targeted such as harleys, old triumphs and nortons etc, targeted specifically for their parts, be it as a mostly complete bike for a plate and tag job, which is extremely easy, or a complete break down, often to order.
These bikes are targeted at times specifically for individual items such as motor, forks, wheels etc.
parts head typically to the seedy underworld of the community that 80% of KBers havent seen the likes of, gangs and associate companies, yes its business and often legitimately fronted businesses.

Dirt bikes, well thats easy, people steal them to order or for them selves, new bars here, new plastics there, and its a different bike, interchangable after market parts, no reg etc, id say an incredibly hard thing to Police considering dirt bikes are used where there is no cops and would be a pure chance meeting to locate the bikes.

Other bikes, stolen to order and wreck, bike wreckers for instance, or even some one who crashed their own bike and wants to change it all over.
buy an insurance write off,get another exact bike, swap tags over, re-reg as a repaired crashed bike.

Internet is another market shipping parts out, or even complete bikesto other countries for parts, Oz??.

What im trying to say is the market is specific, only a few parts would make it to the public to buy and be non traceableitems, of course all crims aint that smart, bet not many late model bmw road bikes get nicked...

Cars often get nicked for fun, but bikes are not something that occurs to a couple of car knockers, they often cant ride, know they will draw attention with no helmet etc and cant go pick up all their mates for a ride.

Subarus for instance, buy a shitty two wheel drive impreza, steal a wrx impreza and stick the running gear in the shit impreza turning it into a 4wd model, all the chasis holes are there etc.

This shit is nothing new people its been happening as some one else mentioned back to when horses were it, cattle stolen and rebranded etc, just like swapping a rego.

i wont go into how easy it is to steal a bike as thats been covered by others, and how its easy to find a target bike.

[Mom]

Motorcycle theft is rife in thius country, you only have to read KB each day to see evidence of it, and we are but a small percentage of bikers in NZ. So for me the question is, how come? Why do we allow our bikes to be easy targets for scumbag thieves?

[The Pastor]

you always hire me, i'll catch those bike thiefing scum, then let you decide cops or not

[scracha]

Why do we allow our bikes to be easy targets for scumbag thieves?

1. 'She'll be right' attitude
2. False perception that NZ has low crime propagated by media to help tourist industry.
3. Piss weak penalties for committing crime.
4. Low insurance premiums.
5. The motorcycle industry (dealers, breakers, MNZ) has no interest in implementing a data-tag system ($35 micro-dots with unique identifiers) as it will affect their sales and availability of cheap parts for racers (something cheap and useful that BRONZ could push for instead of a bloody cheesewire campaign).
6. The Wof only checks the chassis number, not the engine number.
7. As cops have to bring in revenue, they only check for registration and WOF. I've never actually had a cop in NZ stop me and check my license is valid, my engine and frame numbers match or even if there's tread on my tyres.

[Mom]

Back in the mid 70's I had my bike stolen. It was a Yamaha 125 and you could turn the ignition with anything, even a coin at a pinch. I used to leave it parked under a shelter outside the nurses home where I lived, no locks, no nothing. I went out and it was simply gone. My first thought was my boyfriend had come and borrowed it, and I was a bit ticked as I was effectively stuck at the nurses home. I went off to my shift and came back and my bike was back!

Later I rang him and gave him berries for leaving me stranded and it was not him. So, someone needed to use my bike for something and they borrowed it. Brought it back dirty with no gas in it either. Thing is I deserved to lose it, no locks etc. Back then though to be fair you could actually do that. Since then many motorcycles later it has never happened again.

[bogan]

All well and good but how do you get the bike back?

The cops. I had a bike stolen and it was located by a truck driver I knew In the time it took for the filth to get there the could have striped the bike, sold the gear and taken a flight to England.

A GPS tracker won't help this and NZ won't allow the victim to go get it so....?

GPS tracker is the way to go imo, if mine gets stolen and i know exactly where it is, either the cops are going there or i will be (with a vanload of burly blokes).

And if the cops arent keen to go, seriously, wtf, all the work has been done for them, all they have to do is go in and make some arrests.

[Metalor]

you always hire me, i'll catch those bike thiefing scum, then let you decide cops or not

Aye? Did you get someone's bike back for them? What a champion!

[Indiana_Jones]

you always hire me, i'll catch those bike thiefing scum, then let you decide cops or not

RM the bounty hunter!

Move over dog!

-Indy

[Crazy Steve]

Makes no difference to me whether they are super expensive sports bikes or a cheap and cheerful heap of crap commuter or something in between. I dont care if it is an off road unregistered hell for leather dirt bike or a kids little put/put two wheeler. The fact it is chrome as far as the eye can see that you have waited forever to get or spent a fortune on personalising it to your taste, or its older cousin, the loud and obnoxious bleck one is irrelevant as far as I am concerned.

Reading here recently has really highlighted how prevalant bike theft is.

Obviously we all take what we deem to be ok security, or we take none at all, or somewhere in between.

How do we stop our pride and joy bikes from being stolen?

Any of you been offered cheap parts?

Any of you been offered a deal too good to be true?

Any of you seen cheap parts on Tard me?

There has to be a market for stolen bikes/parts. We are bikers, ergo we are the market?

So who is buying this stuff??

Discuss...

Some times they are sold complete once running....

I recently heard of someone offering a 2004 Yamaha R1 In the Waikato area for $2,000.00 was it stolen yes....Did the person buying it care that it was stolen NO....

Also how many bikes on Trade me right now that are Updates ? ?

We all know what updating a Bike is right ? ?

Crazy Steve...

[LaytonNZ]

we need 240V Electric alarms anybody touchs it and you have a free meal when you get back to ur bike from where ever you've been!

[denefoster]

There seems to be an increasing number of bikes being stolen since I started this thread last year. I read recently, of one member that has had the same bike stolen TWICE now. What gives with this? There still has to be some bastard buying these stolen bikes? Surely?

That was probably me ! First time, the cops caught the guy.. then he did a runner and haven't heard back since (pity, i had to rewire it all up, new plastics, etc.. was out of pocket near a grand). Second time they didn't even call me back. Penalties need to be far harsher I think.

New bike will be here soon, and I plan on garaging it at a separate location and alarming + insuring. But still just ridiculous. New Zealand is not large, and there's not even that large of a biking community. If "they" ( the shops and cops) wanted to put a stop to it, they could. So why don't they ?

edit for a stolen bike plug. was a plated 2002 DR-Z400E, trailtech vapour, all yellow plastics, zeta bars, zeta hardguards, drc drz specific smoked tailight + plate holder. Reggo was 12ZBU. Keep them peepers peeled