Fuck!

[mitch.ww]

The real annoying thing about the situation is that any one of you could be right with your assumptions!! Could be a short draining current, could be alternator not charging battery (which is intermittent cos sometimes it does), could be a rectifier or a regulator or a CDI or pretty much anything with wires.. So yeah, the real problem now, is finding the problem.. But thats the shops job so thats what they'll be doing.

PS: How do I quote multiple posts?? Just hit quote and they copy and paste the others in there too?? there must be an easier way!

[vifferman]

It's down at spectrum on Barry's Point,

You'll be right then - they've had experience with this kinda stuff.

PS: How do I quote multiple posts?? Just hit quote and they copy and paste the others in there too?? there must be an easier way!

Use the other button - the one next to the "QUOTE" button. Click it once to select, then again to deselect. It will change colour when selected.
When you're ready, just hit the "Post Reply" button, and all the quoted posts will be pasted into your reply, in the order you've clicked on them.
You can then insert your comments after each quoted post, and delete (or alter, if you're evil) any of the quoted stuff you think isn't relevant.

[mitch.ww]

It's not rocket science.
Even though I am a feckn eejit, I do know a little about bike electrics.
The tachometer works off impulses from a sender on the camshaft or flywheel. If either the starter has a short or (more probably) the R/R is fubar, then you may be getting some A/C pulses coming though the wiring. The tachometer can't tell the difference between these and 'legitimate' pulses from the sender.
You'll also get other 'mental shit' happening if the R/R is at fault, like if the speedo is electronic, it will start playing up, and when the battery voltage drops below a critical threshold, the ignition won't get enough ergs to spark, so the engine will die.

Haha from not seeing my bike, and just stating what you know, pretty bloody good diagnosis! Pretty much what my bikes been doing down to a tee!! Although there could be a few problems with other electrical components thrown in the mix too!!

[vifferman]

there could be a few problems with other electrical components thrown in the mix too!!

Don't panic!
It's possible, but usually it's only the R/R and often the battery that need replacing. Occasionally, the stator will also be fubar, and you may have some blown fuses and/or bulbs to replace as well if the naughty R/R has allowed too much juice from the stator to sneak into the wiring loom. However (but!) because the volts go from the stator to the R/R and then into the battery before they go venturing further upstream, the battery takes the brunt of the electrical shenanigans.
But (however), you could still be up for an R/R ($200-$300?), a battery ($80?) and labour ($80/hour?).
However (but!) it's best to be philosophical and view batteries and R/Rs as consumables like tyres or chains, albeit ones that usually last about 3 to 5 years in the case of the battery, and 10 to 15 years in the case of the R/R.

[mitch.ww]

You'll be right then - they've had experience with this kinda stuff.

Use the other button - the one next to the "QUOTE" button. Click it once to select, then again to deselect. It will change colour when selected.
When you're ready, just hit the "Post Reply" button, and all the quoted posts will be pasted into your reply, in the order you've clicked on them.
You can then insert your comments after each quoted post, and delete (or alter, if you're evil) any of the quoted stuff you think isn't relevant.

Cheers for that my first multi-quote post haha

Don't panic!
It's possible, but usually it's only the R/R and often the battery that need replacing. Occasionally, the stator will also be fubar, and you may have some blown fuses and/or bulbs to replace as well if the naughty R/R has allowed too much juice from the stator to sneak into the wiring loom. However (but!) because the volts go from the stator to the R/R and then into the battery before they go venturing further upstream, the battery takes the brunt of the electrical shenanigans.
But (however), you could still be up for an R/R ($200-$300?), a battery ($80?) and labour ($80/hour?).
However (but!) it's best to be philosophical and view batteries and R/Rs as consumables like tyres or chains, albeit ones that usually last about 3 to 5 years in the case of the battery, and 10 to 15 years in the case of the R/R.

The worst thing is though, that i've just put a new battery in! So i'm hoping all the shenanigans haven't cooked my new battery, as I assume it wont be under warranty if it got fried by other shit??

Either way, whatever I have to fork out, is the money that was gonna be for my new helmet, so there goes my new helmet

[imdying]

Make sure the battery terminals are tight before getting excited.

[mitch.ww]

Make sure the battery terminals are tight before getting excited.

haha fair call, but i'm not retarded, the battery terminals are definitely tight

[mitch.ww]

Just got a phonecall from the shop, the magnets on the flywheel are fucked so that's why it's not charging!! Anyone got a GSF250 flywheel??
Apparently it's a common problem, so might be hard to track one down!!

[imdying]

haha fair call, but i'm not retarded, the battery terminals are definitely tight

No, don't think you're retarded, but the tacho going haywire is often an indicator of a bad earth, which more often than not is tracked down to a battery terminal that has worked loose.

[vifferman]

Apparently it's a common problem, so might be hard to track one down!!

Are they helping you with that, or is it up to you to find some magnets?

[mitch.ww]

No, don't think you're retarded, but the tacho going haywire is often an indicator of a bad earth, which more often than not is tracked down to a battery terminal that has worked loose.

oh sweet, I'll keep that in mind for the next time my bike decides to have a whinge haha

I need a new flywheel now tho.. So on a mission to track one down, any help, greatly appreciated

[mitch.ww]

Are they helping you with that, or is it up to you to find some magnets?

Brent's been on the phone all morning, can't find a wrecker in Auckland with one, as it is a common problem they're all gone
So he's gonna get one priced from Japan which will probably end up being rather pricey!! So I'm on a mission to track one down elsewhere if possible

[mitch.ww]

Are they helping you with that, or is it up to you to find some magnets?

Also it's not just the magnets, need the whole flywheel as they're embedded in it

[vifferman]

Presumably (hopefully?) Suzuki use the same flywheel on more than one model of bike?

[mitch.ww]

Presumably (hopefully?) Suzuki use the same flywheel on more than one model of bike?

This is what i'm hoping!! I thought the GSX would be the same as the GSF is based on it, but it might be one of those annoying things that the GSX used a different charging system, in which case their flywheel wont have magnets But that is what I need to find out, does the GSX use the same flywheels as the GSF, anyone shed any light??