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    Quote Originally Posted by jetboy View Post
    I'll see how it goes with the side stand thing - hopefully this works.
    Just remember to be in neutral, as some bikes will cut out if still in gear and the sidestand is lowered.
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    Intersections and Lights

    Quote Originally Posted by jetboy View Post
    Thanks, but it seems it's not restricted to this particular intersection. I've been around East Auckland and South Auckland and had this problem at just about every intersection.

    If there is a car behind me it's sweet, otherwise, no matter where I position myself of the sensor (sometimes you can see them) the thing doesnt register!
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    The lights are supposedly triggered by metal passing through the induction loop, which causes a small current to be induced, which switches a relay. They are set to be triggered at a certain threshold. If they don't work for your bike, you can increase it slightly as described previously: movement, position, metal closer to the loop, or by pressing your starter (even when the motor's already running!) as this creates a magnetic field.

    However (but!) The Council (whichever one, it's irrelevant) have some REALLY stupid traffic management shit (technical term) going on, so if you're unlucky enough to strike one of the lights which has an antiquated mechanical timer, it will make no difference: you will have to sit there. But (however!) for some reason, pedestrians rank highly in The Scheme of Things, so pressing a crossing button almost always makes the lights change relatively quickly.

    Something I always bear in mind: traffic lights are stupid and were instituted to make intersections easier and safer to navigate. If the traffic lights are making this WORSE, then I ignore them.
    F'rinstance: You're sitting at a traffic light in the middle of the dark, waiting to turn right. Nothing's coming.
    The 'straight-ahead' light is green, but the 'turn right' arrow is red.
    Still nothing coming?
    Fukkit - I'm off.

    Notherf'rinstance: You're on your bike, in the middle of the dark, and nothing's coming.
    The light is red.
    Nothing's coming.
    You have a wee nap, and the light's still red.
    Nothing's coming.
    No-one is around.
    The light's are being NaughtyLittleFuckatards, so don't deserve to be obeyed. Just go!
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Just remember to be in neutral, as some bikes will cut out if still in gear and the sidestand is lowered.
    yes I learned this one rather quickly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
    The lights are supposedly triggered by metal passing through the induction loop, which causes a small current to be induced, which switches a relay. They are set to be triggered at a certain threshold. If they don't work for your bike, you can increase it slightly as described previously: movement, position, metal closer to the loop, or by pressing your starter (even when the motor's already running!) as this creates a magnetic field.
    Ahhh ok sweet thanks for the heads up. May try the starter motor too - this won't damage the bike?

    Quote Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
    However (but!) The Council (whichever one, it's irrelevant) have some REALLY stupid traffic management shit (technical term) going on, so if you're unlucky enough to strike one of the lights which has an antiquated mechanical timer, it will make no difference: you will have to sit there. But (however!) for some reason, pedestrians rank highly in The Scheme of Things, so pressing a crossing button almost always makes the lights change relatively quickly.
    Try driving in Holland. Over there, the bicycles have right of way...every time, no matter what. Last time I went over I got the shock of my life when, at roundabouts, you not only have to pay attention to the cars on the road but bicycles on the footpath too!

    Quote Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
    Something I always bear in mind: traffic lights are stupid and were instituted to make intersections easier and safer to navigate. If the traffic lights are making this WORSE, then I ignore them.
    F'rinstance: You're sitting at a traffic light in the middle of the dark, waiting to turn right. Nothing's coming.
    The 'straight-ahead' light is green, but the 'turn right' arrow is red.
    Still nothing coming?
    Fukkit - I'm off.
    Yeah that's what happened to me last night. Dark, quiet, and no cops, so gapped it after waiting patiently for 10min. Thats 10min I'll never get back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetboy View Post
    Ahhh ok sweet thanks for the heads up. May try the starter motor too - this won't damage the bike?
    It shouldn't do (but may depend on how your starter works). On a car, it generally spins the pinion out to mesh with the teeth on the flywheel, so if the engine's already going, it makes a gnarsty grinding noise. However, bike starters are different, and have a kind of clutch with a one-way roller bearing system, so just spins without engaging if the engine's already going. Or so I believe...
    I've been told that (for my VFR) you can do this, and I've verified it by pressing it with the engine running. I've also had a sticky starter button and rode along for a few minutes wondering what the strange extra whirring/whining noise was.

    Quote Originally Posted by jetboy View Post
    Try driving in Holland. Over there, the bicycles have right of way...every time, no matter what.
    I did - last August. I was very impressed with the status of cyclists - which also seemed to include scooter riders! I saw some whizzing along the cycleways, no helmets or other safety gear!

    Quote Originally Posted by jetboy View Post
    Yeah that's what happened to me last night. Dark, quiet, and no cops, so gapped it after waiting patiently for 10min. Thats 10min I'll never get back.
    I've been wise to this for a long time - I started riding motorcycles in the 70's, and there were a couple of traffic lights in Rotorua that totally ignored bikes, so I learned to stop, look both ways, and go. (Mind you, back in those days, the MOT were generally a little more sensible and pragmatic about 'naughty' things you might do, so if they caught you doing this, they'd accept your explanation and let you continue. I'd idmagine there'd be some nowadays that'd look on it as a convenient boost to their ticket quota...)
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    ive run a few reds that have refused to change no matter what trick i tried. i have a lot of success on the middle part of the sensor, but there are a couple of extra stubborn ones here.

    dad got a ticket years ago in the wee hours when he ran a red that had refused to change. that was on a gn250.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetboy View Post
    yes I learned this one rather quickly!
    Wait till you try to start your bike with the stand down Always good for your mates to have a good laugh at you

    Yeah the sensors should detect you if you do actually stop over top of them. You can usually see the part of the road where they are. If you do stop over the "area" you think the sensor is in and it still does not trigger,like others have said just go (applying the Give way rule of course) and report the non functioning sensor to the council. They can be adjusted.

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    Nonono,

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetboy View Post
    Sorry if this has been posted before...

    How on earth do you get traffic lights to register that you are waiting at an intersection? I was sitting on the corner of Chapel Road and Ormiston Road by that ugly new bridge (for those of you who know East Auckland) waiting at the bloody lights for about 3 entire phases before deciding to run a red

    I've had this a few times now - how do you get the things to see you!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyhorse View Post
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    ...resisting smart ass comment.....

    haha

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