Must have new bike, the cops will crucify my license again if I don't!

[Mschvs]

All those bikes are capable of license losing speeds.

I don't think the problem lies with the bike.

Maybe at the same time, you should invest in a radar detector and an eye examination ... for your own sake of course!!

[Hitcher]

I don't think the problem lies with the bike.

Damned straight. Those who blame the bike for their speeding woes could save themselves cash, as well as "protecting" their licenses, by procuring a used GN250.

[CookMySock]

Those who blame the bike for their speeding woes could save themselves cash, as well as "protecting" their licenses, by procuring a used GN250.

Suspend your disbelief. He's not saying the bike is as fault. He's saying some bikes are rewarding than others to ride at legal speeds.

Steve

[Indiana_Jones]

You can loose your licence on any bike.

Edit: good point made by DB, riding a 'slower' bike at speed has it's own rewards

but if you want torque, get a street triple

-Indy

[jim.cox]

Get a Beemer Doug!

and a radar detector :)

[vifferman]

You can loose your licence on any bike.

Not if you glue it to your pants, or otherwise ensure it's tight.
You can also lose it, if you have a hole in your pocket.

[Taz]

Forget the sports bikes and get an adventure bike then travel the roads less travelled. You'll have a ball and keep your licence.

[BMWST?]

Forget the sports bikes and get an adventure bike then travel the roads less travelled. You'll have a ball and keep your licence.

the wind sock riding position discourages speeds much more than the speed limit too

[xwhatsit]

One day DangerousIceCream might ride something other than a Hyobag, then he'll actually learn what power is like.

Until then, I can't help but laugh.

Well they make an appreciable amount more than the SV650.

Anyway it's a valid point. All bikes have their `sweet spot' where the gear ratios and horsepower curves and suspension all match up and the bike is comfortable and most enjoyable to ride. For a GN250 that's about 70-80kph... for a 1000cc transverse four it seems to be more like 160kph+. Twins (and even more so, singles) with their banging away and lack of high-end power rush compared to tend to have that sweet spot at slower speeds. Take all the silly plastic bodywork and screen off and the sweet spot will be even lower.

A speed-freak can get his jollies on a GB500 or a Goose well below the speed limit, zooming around town and finding twisty mountain roads. A high-capacity transverse four simply isn't aimed at that kind of riding -- carefully opening a 3mm of throttle and never getting out of first or second gear is not most people's idea of a `blast'.

If you've got little self-control to begin with, best to reduce the chance of temptation, no?

[p.dath]

Would perhaps a noisier muffler give you the thrills you are after?

[Taz]

zooming around town

Zooming around town is the best place to pick up speeding tickets. There are places out there that are more speed friendly than the city. right place right time and you shouldn't pick up too many fines. 95kmh past the local high school to "impress" the chicks and you'll be walking in no time. Still some just can't do without an audience.

[slofox]

An SVS is certainly capable of losing you your licence, 'specially with a Two Bros can on it...as I noted this morning when I passed a truck and trailer unit and noted with horror that I was clocking mumbletymumblety9km/hr...less HUGE speedo error of course so was probably still quite legal (yeah right). I did shut 'er down in a hurry though, once I noticed...
Which is my whole point really - on almost any bike, it is way easy to drift over the limit without even noticing, especially when overtaking. I also have a really bad habit of thinking I am still a gear down from 6th and finding that I am actually NOT in 5th after all...that's gonna get me in the shit one day soon if I don't learn the learn quick smart...

[Hitcher]

A high-capacity transverse four simply isn't aimed at that kind of riding -- carefully opening a 3mm of throttle and never getting out of first or second gear is not most people's idea of a `blast'.

Bullshit.

Sorry, I should have said "what a staggering over-simplistic generalisation". Forgive me.

[xwhatsit]

Zooming around town is the best place to pick up speeding tickets. There are places out there that are more speed friendly than the city. right place right time and you shouldn't pick up too many fines. 95kmh past the local high school to "impress" the chicks and you'll be walking in no time. Still some just can't do without an audience.

Well that ties into what I was talking about. On a GSXR600 `zooming around town' may very well be 95kph past the local high school. On a GN250 or RS125 or a motard `zooming around town' can still be bang-on the speed limit and you still get your kicks scraping pegs turning 90-degrees into side streets, or dragging off cops in Commodores from the traffic lights (and hitting all five gears before you get to 50kph), pulling wheelies off speed bumps at 25kph etc.

You can get no better example than the Sachs Madass 125 that's being stored in my garage for a friend right now. It wheelies and stoppies with complete ease at 20kph. You can throw it through corners like a dirt bike. You're in top gear by 45kph -- and it sounds manic while you race it up through the gears to get there.

[xwhatsit]

Bullshit.

Sorry, I should have said "what a staggering over-simplistic generalisation". Forgive me.

Of course it's a staggering over-simplistic generalisation. But what would be more interesting for you through a downtown `parking lot' of a clogged city commute? Your old FJR, or a DRZ400 Super Moto? Or on a tight, bumpy, left/right/left/right 25kph-recommended forest road like Waipoua Forest?

I won't guess at your reasons for buying the SL750, but given it's a naked smaller-capacity twin you must see some of my point.