'He killed girlfriend due to emotional pain', court told

[Ragingrob]

Bear in mind, though, we can't all be perfect.

No we aren't at all, but people this far from perfect can go waste away in jail.

[sunhuntin]

Can emotional pain ever form justifiable provocation for murder?
Does cruelly driving someone to that state of mind make a murder victim someone that the world is better off without?

Your thoughts please, ladies and gentlemen.

in certain cases, i think yes.

i know the mother of my neice and nephews is someone who has caused my family 3 years of heartache, from accusing all of us of molesting my neice, ringing the cops on mum when she refused the bitch entry to her home, to being passed out on the couch on p with the baby at her tit and the two older kids nowhere in sight. she even had my brother [the kids father] bottled at a pub one night. nearly bloody killed him. you name it, and shes probably done it.

my entire family would quite happily do some jail time if it meant removing her from her kids lives. shes nothing but dangerous and is a shit role model. my neices first birthday, you could her beating the crap out of her oldest son inside the house. however, i dont think any of us could do it with force... knife or gun or anything. personally, id poison her... spike her drugs or something.
pretty much, having the bitch killed is our only option... cyfs and the police dont seem interested... one seemed to think it was normal for a 6 month old baby to be wearing size 3 clothes.

[NDORFN]

He should've staged "accidental" 3rd degree burns to her face. That'd level the playing field.

[Solly]

.............Freaks like that need to be in jail. Killing someone isn't exactly a great way of handling your emotions.....

Killing someone IS exactly the ONLY way of handling Psycho prick like him!!!!

I suggest he burns.......nice & slow.......

I challenge all to come up with some "appropriate" way/s to deal with arseholes like him.

[Katman]

my entire family would quite happily do some jail time if it meant removing her from her kids lives. personally, id poison her... spike her drugs or something.
pretty much, having the bitch killed is our only option...

I think you've just been added to the police database.

[FROSTY:Me]

Ya know it aint often I agree with Jrandoms views on life n love n stuff.
But Literally I can say "there but by the grace of god go I"
I was going out with a lady that literally picked and picked at literally everything I did. Day after day nothing was right nothing was good enough. after 18 months something inside me snapped.
I grabbed my lid and quite literally walked out the front door and never went back --only the darn thing wasn't open.

[Madness]

Stuff quote Crown prosecutor Marie Grills "33-year-old Weatherston took the knife with him when he visited 22-year-old Miss Elliott's Dunedin home on January 9, 2008."

That sounds like premeditation to me.

Put him in Paremoremo with Burton.

[NDORFN]

What is really needed is a better understanding and management of PMS by both men and women. That'd solve ALOT of socialogical issues.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I dont care how bright he is: bullet in the head (after due process of course!)

[HenryDorsetCase]

in certain cases, i think yes.

i know the mother of my neice and nephews is someone who has caused my family 3 years of heartache, from accusing all of us of molesting my neice, ringing the cops on mum when she refused the bitch entry to her home, to being passed out on the couch on p with the baby at her tit and the two older kids nowhere in sight. she even had my brother [the kids father] bottled at a pub one night. nearly bloody killed him. you name it, and shes probably done it.

my entire family would quite happily do some jail time if it meant removing her from her kids lives. shes nothing but dangerous and is a shit role model. my neices first birthday, you could her beating the crap out of her oldest son inside the house. however, i dont think any of us could do it with force... knife or gun or anything. personally, id poison her... spike her drugs or something.
pretty much, having the bitch killed is our only option... cyfs and the police dont seem interested... one seemed to think it was normal for a 6 month old baby to be wearing size 3 clothes.

all the family gathered just sang a chorus of "happy birthday" a bit louder while that was going on?

[Mom]

Me, I'd acquit him. There are quite a few bitches out there that need a good stabbing, and reading between the lines, I'd say he got himself one. Your thoughts please, ladies and gentlemen.

You might have guessed I would be a starter for this obviously trolling thread.

Can I say up front "fuck off you weirdo!"

He stabbed out her eyeballs, I forget the number of times per eye for the moment, he cut off her ears and her nipples, a part of her nose and he stabbed her many other times to make sure she was good and properly DEAD! He also did this while her mother was in the house. How any Mother could not have gathered something was wrong before her daughter received 216 stab wounds is beyond me, but I digress.

While it is true that some people are very annoying and also very abusive, he is not attempting a defense of battered woman defense (yes I know he is male) he admits manslaughter. He lost it and did her in because he snapped apparently. Before he snapped though he turned up at her house with a knife (not the pocket variety), unusual thing for a Uni lecturer to carry around normally.

Be interesting to see how this clever woman defends him. She is smart lady. He is pyscho wack job

[ManDownUnder]

... after 18 months something inside me snapped....

What he said. The answer is yes to JR's question - there is just such a phenomenon, and as I understand it, it is the basis of the battered wife defence... i.e. she is battered so often that she eventually gets to a point where there's nothing left to lose... so she fights back.

And when it starts to come out - it all comes out. I suggest the 200 stabbings could be symptomatic of exactly that.

... or not... because I didn't read the article (but then I don't have to. As a KBer I reserve the right to form a fully qualified opinion on proportion of the available facts and opinions I see fit... let's call it 69th amendment)

[PrincessBandit]

I'd like to know how he admits to "manslaughter". "But your honour, I really didn't think that stabbing her that many times and cutting off parts of her body would actually kill her..."

[Katman]

Ya know it aint often I agree with Jrandoms views on life n love n stuff.
But Literally I can say "there but by the grace of god go I"
I was going out with a lady that literally picked and picked at literally everything I did. Day after day nothing was right nothing was good enough. after 18 months something inside me snapped.
I grabbed my lid and quite literally walked out the front door and never went back --only the darn thing wasn't open.

Not quite the same though, is it?

[YLWDUC]

You called me a loser, Oh, I'm in so much emotional pain. Come here girly, let me 'Manslaughter' you to resolve my pent up emotional issues. Abso-f#$@ing-lutely pathetic.

Manslaughter is for those cases where you did'nt actually intend to do anything, but because you're so stupid the person died. Eg: Like leaving your kids locked in the car on a hot day. Or not looking behind the car when you reverse up a driveway and kill your own child. As opposed to putting your child in a washing machine. Or stabbing your girlfriend 200 times.

What this guy is trying to argue is what the States would call 1st degree vs 2nd degree Murder. He might not have meticulously planned her death, but he sure as sh1t gave it a good go when he got 'overcome with emotion'

anyway, my two cents for the week.