Hazzard County

[eelracing]

A few years back a young lady was wiped out in the middle of a main intrsection here in Wanganui by a pursued driver.The pursuit had started in a suburb and when getting close to the city center the cop should of pulled out and disengaged from the chase.He did'nt and part of the consequence was the pursued driver ran a red light and plowed into another car.

As an aside the driver and his buddies who did the runner were then observed by horrified witnesses to hop out of there car utterly pissed off there faces and sharing a laugh while at the same time this girl was either dead or dying.

Scum like this are gonna run whatever the circumstances,they have no respect for themselves let alone other peoples lives...should the cop have pulled out of the chase and maybe they wouldnt of run the light???

What if it was one of us or a member of your family that was killed by one of these runners?Would you blame the cop?
If pursuing into a built up/traffic heavy area...then yes,thats why they have other cops and radios for.
Personally I think he should have,but then i have the benefit of hindsight.

And i can't see much difference between driving drunk and or doing a runner than say shooting off a shotgun indiscriminately at your neighbors.In fact the perpetrators should be dealt with the same way if it results in innocent deaths

[nosebleed]

In my view -- not completely no.
But neither should it be a witch hunt, that diverts blame from the true offender.

Say he had called it off, and Mr Anderson (sorry, I've the Matrix voice in my head) had caused an accident further down the road.
It would become evident that this officer had the opportunity to stop him -- and didn't.
Bet the officer'd be being blamed for that call then.

I do ride the area -- my folks are in Tomarata. And I've been pinged.
Shot up to Waipu on the Sun 21st, back through Brenderwyn and SH16. Not one cop on the whole trip.
Been in the area other times and counted 1/2 dozen easy.

I'm not disputing your experiences, you live in the area so you see them more than I do.
But, this case isn't the result of over-zealous police work (in MY view)

[SixPackBack]

A few years back a young lady was wiped out in the middle of a main intrsection here in Wanganui by a pursued driver.The pursuit had started in a suburb and when getting close to the city center the cop should of pulled out and disengaged from the chase.He did'nt and part of the consequence was the pursued driver ran a red light and plowed into another car.

As an aside the driver and his buddies who did the runner were then observed by horrified witnesses to hop out of there car utterly pissed off there faces and sharing a laugh while at the same time this girl was either dead or dying.

Scum like this are gonna run whatever the circumstances,they have no respect for themselves let alone other peoples lives...should the cop have pulled out of the chase and maybe they wouldnt of run the light???

What if it was one of us or a member of your family that was killed by one of these runners?Would you blame the cop?
If pursuing into a built up/traffic heavy area...then yes,thats why they have other cops and radios for.
Personally I think he should have,but then i have the benefit of hindsight.

And i can't see much difference between driving drunk and or doing a runner than say shooting off a shotgun indiscriminately at your neighbors.In fact the perpetrators should be dealt with the same way if it results in innocent deaths

The father of the deceased lad is taking the police to court in this case which gives an idea of the depth of revulsion and blame the family feel towards the officers actions.
The court case will be interesting to say the least, but if the complaints authority is any measure somebody will receive a royal butt reaming, and rightly so.

[SixPackBack]

For those that can be bothered, the following threads [together with the ATNR thread] give a good indication of the type of behaviour Hazzard County locals have to put up with.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...t=ginga+copper

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...t=ginga+copper

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...t=ginga+copper

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...t=ginga+copper

[peasea]

I'd suggest they target specific bikers - I've been here 4 years and never had a problem. Not minimising the issue at all, manslaughter is manslaughter but it seems the MO might be to chase specific plates

I wouldn't doubt it, especially if you stood up for your rights then you'd be a target for sure. Names and rego numbers would go around the smoko room like....swine flu.

[SixPackBack]

I wouldn't doubt it, especially if you stood up for your rights then you'd be a target for sure. Names and rego numbers would go around the smoko room like....swine flu.

That has most definitely happened. Arseholes.

[peasea]

That has most definitely happened. Arseholes.

It's kinda funny (in a perverse kind of way) that whenever you stick up for yourself and tell the offending (offensive) cop that this is that and so on, they always say "don't quote the law to me". However, I respond with something along the lines of "If you knew your job I wouldn't have to" and they get all nasty. Weird.

If they know so much how come they make so many fuckups?

[SixPackBack]

It's kinda funny (in a perverse kind of way) that whenever you stick up for yourself and tell the offending (offensive) cop that this is that and so on, they always say "don't quote the law to me". However, I respond with something along the lines of "If you knew your job I wouldn't have to" and they get all nasty. Weird.

If they know so much how come they make so many fuckups?

We all make mistakes peasea, its the lies that are hard to stomach

[Swoop]

this case isn't the result of over-zealous police work (in MY view)

I tend to disagree.
A personal incident that I was witness to, indicated that there is a "thank you, come again" attitude.
Two mates lost their licences, however once they were added to the plod's quota, he was extremely fast in getting back on the road to continue making it safer.

Gotta show the boss who's a good boy and exceeding the quota. = More donuts.

[peasea]

We all make mistakes peasea, its the lies that are hard to stomach

Ah yes, quite right, we do and they are, I agree. However, I do feel that someone who is supposed to uphold the law should know something about it. It would appear that being a 'big, burly, rufty-tufty, rugby-playing boofhead' comes way before common sense, diplomacy, general knowledge and knowledge of the law at police training schools.

[scumdog]

while i agree the cop should have gone thru the proper processes before ,during and after the chase, the main fault belongs to the Dumb FUCKWIT driving the Subaru.

If the fuckhead didn't do a runna none of this would of happened.

Damn right, drongo 17 years olds that think they "know it all" and worse, think they can drive....

[SixPackBack]

Damn right, drongo 17 years olds that think they "know it all" and worse, think they can drive....

Pity the cop had the same attitude.........

[scumdog]

The father of the deceased lad is taking the police to court in this case which gives an idea of the depth of revulsion and blame the family feel towards the officers actions.
The court case will be interesting to say the least, but if the complaints authority is any measure somebody will receive a royal butt reaming, and rightly so.

The dick that decided to do the runner COULD have pulled over and stopped, couldn't he???

And he might still be alive had he done so.

Meh, cops are like taxes, bad roads, waiting lists for surgery and inter-island ferries, a part of life.....maybe not everybodies cup of tea, maybe not all as shit hot as some would like but hey, what ya goin' to do eh.....

[Patrick]

The father of the deceased lad is taking the police to court in this case which gives an idea of the depth of revulsion and blame the family feel towards the officers actions.
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I wonder about the depth of revulsion they have for the driver of the pursued car.... no mention anywhere about that....?????

[peasea]

The dick that decided to do the runner COULD have pulled over and stopped, couldn't he???

And he might still be alive had he done so.

Meh, cops are like taxes, bad roads, waiting lists for surgery and inter-island ferries, a part of life.....maybe not everybodies cup of tea, maybe not all as shit hot as some would like but hey, what ya goin' to do eh.....

That's the spirit; "what ya goin' to do?" (Bad boy, bad boy....)

Cops are NOT like taxes. Taxes might skin you alive but they don't lie while they're doing it.