Hazzard County

**NDORFN** · 4th July 2009, 10:02

As far as Dixon, Amon etc... go. THEY LEARNT TO RACE ON THE TRACK! Dixon was racing karts LONG before he was old enough to drive. So NO, it wouldn't make an iota of difference to the NZ motor-racing talent if we banned high-performance cars to young drivers.

**Morcs** · 4th July 2009, 10:34

Originally Posted by Patrick

Paranoia perhaps?

Rocket science and not attracting attention to oneself is difficult to some....

I sat behind the cop car for a good 4 minutes sussing it out. Even as I cruised past it I had a bloody good look and was content that it wasnt cops...

**Hinny** · 4th July 2009, 17:07

I just discovered something that may cast some light on the behaviour of the ATNR nemesis and why so many seem to find his behaviour so 'Alien'.

'The Ginga
Photo of Ginga in the clean room.
Astro-C, renamed Ginga (Japanese for 'galaxy'), was launched from the Kagoshima Space Center on 5 February 1987.
Ginga re-entered the Earth's atmosphere on 1 November 1991.'

Nearly 5 years alone in the weightless of space has got to have affected his behavioural temporal lobes.

The definition of Ginga is also insightful.

'gingas are people suffering from the incurable disease known as 'gingervitis', they have orange hair, light skin and freckles.
They are known as: Coppertops, Fantapants, Gingarians, Ginger Ninja, Rusty Crotch, Copper Knobs, and my personal favourite, Road Cones.
It is highly recommended that you DO NOT bring any flammable material around them if you value your life!

steve: i think i can take him.
steven: careful man, he's got gingervitis you might get burnt or he'll go raging ginga on your ass. i love you man.
steve: i love you too.'

**scumdog** · 4th July 2009, 17:26

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

So I agree that over empathsis on speed is frustrating when NZ stats show speed is not main factor..

Yeah, hell, I bet those three guys in Invercargill died in the Honda on Friday morning without speed of any sort being involved, speed doesn't kill, all Kbers know THAT....

**Usarka** · 4th July 2009, 17:34

Originally Posted by scumdog

Yeah, hell, I bet those three guys in Invercargill died in the Honda on Friday morning without speed of any sort being involved, speed doesn't kill, all Kbers know THAT....

Without speed you can't get anywhere either.....

**SixPackBack** · 4th July 2009, 17:44

Originally Posted by scumdog

Yeah, hell, I bet those three guys in Invercargill died in the Honda on Friday morning without speed of any sort being involved, speed doesn't kill, all Kbers know THAT....

Simplistic crash scene investigation NZ styles.....Motorist was travelling faster than the posted speed limit *case closed*. And the coppers wonder why we point the chicken bone at them and laugh!

**scumdog** · 4th July 2009, 18:07

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

Simplistic crash scene investigation NZ styles.....Motorist was travelling faster than the posted speed limit *case closed*. And the coppers wonder why we point the chicken bone at them and laugh!

Yeah, why worry who was actually driving, whether they (or anybody) had been drinking or whether the car had unsafe modifications, mechanical problems or whatever, who needs to know that......they're all dead anyway eh..

**Dare** · 4th July 2009, 18:08

Originally Posted by scumdog

Yeah, hell, I bet those three guys in Invercargill died in the Honda on Friday morning without speed of any sort being involved, speed doesn't kill, all Kbers know THAT....

I see far more near misses on high ways from people changing lanes without indicating/looking and following ~5m behind at 100+ k's than I have from people doing 120... And yet I don't remember the last time I saw an advert damning that kind of behaviour... IMO red/green light jumpers are worst, it's a matter of time before the twain meet at 90 degrees.

In my experience blame is not a useful concept, better is what can be done to prevent this in future. And if the answer is breathalyzers attached to the ignition and power/weight laws for age groups you can hardly blame law enforcers for suggesting that.

Personally I think forget paying the government every few months to 'remember' you own a car, every 5 years you should be made to retake your test, and advanced driving/riding courses should be enforced not just encouraged. This comes from someone who did that 'reduce your restricted' course and found it pretty lacking. There is a reason other countries make it much tougher to pass licences, and as a result they get to have higher speed limits, funny that...

Anyway back to topic, something I heard seems poignant... Oh yes.
Well it wasn't me say the boy with the gun
sure i pulled the trigger but it needed to be done
because life's been killin' me ever since it begun
you cant blame me cause i'm too young
You cant blame me, sure the killer was my son
but I didn't teach him to pull the trigger of the gun
It's the killing on his TV screen
You can't blame me, it's those images he sees
You can't blame me says the media man
Well I wasn't the one that came up with the plan
and I just point my camera what the people wanna see
man it's a two way mirror and you can't blame me
You can't blame me says the singer of the song
or the maker of the movie which he bases life on
It's only entertainment and as anyone can see
its smoke machine's a make-up, man you can't fool me
It was you
it was me
it was every man
We all got the blood on our hands

**SixPackBack** · 4th July 2009, 18:23

Originally Posted by BaDDoGNZ

I see far more near misses on high ways from people changing lanes without indicating/looking and following ~5m behind at 100+ k's than I have from people doing 120... And yet I don't remember the last time I saw an advert damning that kind of behaviour... IMO red/green light jumpers are worst, it's a matter of time before the twain meet at 90 degrees.

In my experience blame is not a useful concept, better is what can be done to prevent this in future. And if the answer is breathalyzers attached to the ignition and power/weight laws for age groups you can hardly blame law enforcers for suggesting that.

Personally I think forget paying the government every few months to 'remember' you own a car, every 5 years you should be made to retake your test, and advanced driving/riding courses should be enforced not just encouraged. This comes from someone who did that 'reduce your restricted' course and found it pretty lacking. There is a reason other countries make it much tougher to pass licences, and as a result they get to have higher speed limits, funny that...

Anyway back to topic, something I heard seems poignant... Oh yes.
Well it wasn't me say the boy with the gun
sure i pulled the trigger but it needed to be done
because life's been killin' me ever since it begun
you cant blame me cause i'm too young
You cant blame me, sure the killer was my son
but I didn't teach him to pull the trigger of the gun
It's the killing on his TV screen
You can't blame me, it's those images he sees
You can't blame me says the media man
Well I wasn't the one that came up with the plan
and I just point my camera what the people wanna see
man it's a two way mirror and you can't blame me
You can't blame me says the singer of the song
or the maker of the movie which he bases life on
It's only entertainment and as anyone can see
its smoke machine's a make-up, man you can't fool me
It was you
it was me
it was every man
We all got the blood on our hands

Forget that. BRONZ has advocated a higher level of rider training for motorists and effectively been stone walled for their efforts.

.......FWIW I agree ALL motorcyclists should have rider training and track time.

**peasea** · 4th July 2009, 19:33

Better get the cops some driver training too.

Scumbags think they're above the law!

Discharge indeed, take the medicine like the rest of us.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/n...eeks-discharge

**Dare** · 4th July 2009, 19:43

Originally Posted by peasea

Better get the cops some driver training too.

Hehehehe. The fun starts at 25 seconds.

**Grahameeboy** · 5th July 2009, 07:38

Originally Posted by scumdog

Yeah, hell, I bet those three guys in Invercargill died in the Honda on Friday morning without speed of any sort being involved, speed doesn't kill, all Kbers know THAT....

You know what I mean...I was doing some research on Stats NZ and speed was low down as the main factor....I am still alive so speed doesn't always kill.....smoking kills but the Govt just give you a warning...not a ticket...