Illegal Doco on TV2.

[firefighter]

Chit chit chit.

Wrong ladder = tradesmen falling off = rise in ACC levies in the long run.

ACC Police here

LOL, more importantly he may have leave the job incomplete!

[Usarka]

Fuck target up the arse. I bet these cafe owners feel that way - harold. Target inccorrectly accused them of having high shit levels in their food. Surprise no customers anymore, business going down the toilet (excuse the pun).

[ynot slow]

Re no license for reporter,it is against the law to be in posession of a firearm without a relevant license,I and several mates with licenses have a slight delemma if we died,the partners have to get the rifles off the property pretty quick,so we arrange each other to remove and store tull they(arms)are sold on behalf of estate.I asked the local arms officer if I died how long do we have,reply lawfully none,no license holder is against the law,but common sense is descretion.

Any military regalier expo I've been at which includes weapons has been well recieved,totally organised,and if sellers don't see a valid license and class will not sell.

[Swoop]

The programme had all the quality of a reporter from a Sunday paper...

Shocking reporting. He already had his mind made up and went about attempting to prove that his one-sided reporting was gospel.
Unfortunate that the HAMC didn't give him a beating. What a tosser, showing up at the gate and asking that!

And how many NZers are killed by bullets falling out of the sky each year anyway????

Some years back, the local rag printed an article about a lady who had a window broken and SWORE it must have been a lunatic flying around in a plane shooting a rifle!

[The Stranger:Me]

Yup 'documentries' like that piss me off

Didn't see the doco, so not sure why it would piss you.
What part annoys you?

[Mr Merde]

As a responsible firearms owner I was shocked by the way this documentary was presented. I had the feeling that the reporter was a Mike Moore wannabe.

Even the presentation was a piece of crap.

Personally I think that the reporter himself should be charged under the firearms act as well as that dickhead who fired the rifle into the air, but he (the reporter) will claim "freedom of the press".

As to the gunshow, I've been there. What he focussed on was the more heavily controlled types of weapons which are all securely chaind to the displays. They are there as a display, not for sale. The Nazi flag shown is part of the military re enactors area where there is also displays of British and US WW2 equipment etc. So a biased view of the show. This kind of reporting is exactly why there is a ban on taking a camers into this show. Its amazing how judicious editing can be used to prove a point of view.

If anyone of you has seen Mike Moore's "Bowling for Colombine" you will remember the speech by Charlton Heston that comes accross extreme right wing. Look carefully at this part. His tie and shirt change colour andf pattern on numerous occasions in this short piece of the film. Editing is wonderful.

As to Trade Me. If you bid on a firearm or part thereof then you have to submit a firearms licence number.

I also felt that this whole programe was in colusion with the upper echelon of the police firearms dept. It plays directly into their hands. They can now attempt to implement stricter controls upon us by using this as "independant reserarch". Look at what the senior police officer (forgot his name) said. He stated that the police should start tracking and refgistering firearms from now and keep a register. In otherwords bring in individual registration of firearms via a backdoor rather than going through the parliamentary process of law.

This attitude is why the police have recently decided that they can arbitarily reclassify a particular type of firearm without recourse to the laws of our land. They are to busy trying to make sure that their interpretation of the law is how we are controlled and not enforcing it as it is in the books. This is wrong.

ANyway back to the subject.

This reporter should have the full weight of the law brought down on him, but he wont as he is convienient.


Chris

Anyone interested in watching "gutterpress" at its worse here is the link

http://tvnz.co.nz/illegal-nz/s1-e1-video-2835335

[Finn]

The very fact that the HOS prick didn't know anything about firearms just goes to show what a completely unbalanced doco it was.

[Clockwork]

I take your points about selective editing and the "sensationalist" way this program was presented but with respect to whether he has broken any laws... I saw the doco and he made a point of stating the guns were passed on to a license holder. Apart from that, is it an offence to buy without a license or is the offence only commited by the seller?

[Mr Merde]

I take your points about selective editing and the "sensationalist" way this program was presented but with respect to whether he has broken any laws... I saw the doco and he made a point of stating the guns were passed on to a license holder. Apart from that, is it an offence to buy without a license or is the offence only commited by the seller?

Yes it is illegal to pocess or buy a firearm without a licence.

That is why we who are responsible get such. We have to undergo a required process and comply with standards set down by law.

Thats the problem Its law and criminals by the nature of their chosen lifestyle dont pay any attention to such.

BTW I have just made a complaint to TVNZ re this programme. Pretty much stating what I said in my earlier post. I doubt wether anything will come of it.

[wbks]

What are these Expos that you guys mentioned? Didn't watch it, and might take dial up a while to load that vid...

[Mr Merde]

What are these Expos that you guys mentioned? Didn't watch it, and might take dial up a while to load that vid...

It was the biannual gunshow held in Henderson. A 2 day event. For a firearms owner and shooting sportsmanit is a very good visit. Sure there are things there that dont interest me but there are many stands that re of great interest.

There is strict control on bringing in bags and cameras, for security reasons, and there is a police prescence for licencing reasons.

In the 6 years since I first started going I have never seen any trouble, rabble rousing or extreme right wing activities. Everyone is well behaves=d and polite.

It is usually very well attended by shooters, enthusiasts and families.

[mynameis]

Yes as mentioned in my initial post, he's a mug, stupid presenter and you can clearly see that throughout the doco HOWEVER he still does have some very good valid points about Kiwis slack attitude towards firearms.

e.g. That muppet shooting in the air next to a primary school, the guy clearly stating in the phone convo that he doesn't give a shit if you have a licence or not, goes to show.

I wonder if the stats he presented were accurate i.e. we have one of the highest number of firearms/gun holders in the world per captia. Mainly because a lot of farmers have them...

[Mr Merde]

I have just made a complaint with the Broadcasting Standards Authoirity stating that the programme was biased, bigoted and showing illegal activity by the presenter.

Never complained about TV before.

[mynameis]

I have just made a complaint with the Broadcasting Standards Authoirity stating that the programme was biased, bigoted and showing illegal activity by the presenter.

Never complained about TV before.

LOl..he really pushed your buttons aye

The most stupid moment ringing the bell at HA Inc gates and asking them if they sold guns. LOl.."naaah fuck off you idiot"

[Mr Merde]

LOl..he really pushed your buttons aye

The most stupid moment ringing the bell at HA Inc gates and asking them if they sold guns. LOl.."naaah fuck off you idiot"

Oh yes he did.

I do believe that every one is entitled to their own point of view but this programme was a POS of the worst kind. It wasnt even very well produced.

Pompous dickhead of a presenter. Bet his shit doesnt stink.

In actuallity its probably the final straw. There has been so much going on lately and I see my sport being eroded bit by bit with no means of answering. I classs myself as tolerant and lawabiding but there is a limit.

How do you think the members of this group would feel if they were constantly branded as evil and as a result more and more restrictions were placed on what , where and how we could ride. Then to top it off government sponsored TV programmes were made in support.