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    Question Mass medication - our daily bread

    Seems we are about to be (whether we are pregnant of not) medicated to avoid neural tube defects by way of drugs being put in our bread. Seems we can not avoid it unless we are buy organic or unleavend bread. We cant even bake our own as this drug is being added to our flour, though we can of course buy organic flour (ca-ching).

    Recent data shows there is an increased risk of developing cancer, particularly prostate cancer from this drug. Even though the government are not completely happy, becasue of a trade agreement with Australia, this will happen, and will not be reviewed until after it has been introduced.

    Now, while I am ancient, it was not that long ago that when you got pregnant you were prescribed a folic acid pill, to be taken daily to help prevent neural tube defects (spina bifida etc) in our babies. It was matter of course, just like extra iron tablets, and it was free! These days it seems you have to pay for a very expensive (almost $1 a day) pill over the counter, and we get to eat it in our bread regardless! Women will have to eat 11 slices of bread (tui anyone) to get the recommended dose of folic acid.

    I am completely opposed to the government dictating my drug regime, last time I checked I was past the getting pregnant stage anyway. My children dont need it at the moment, and my husband surely does not need to worry excessively about his prostate!

    I say NO to this enforced medication of the populace, and a big yes to giving pregnant, and about to be, trying to be pregnant and breast feeding Mothers this suppliment for free!

    How say you guys?
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    Doesn't bother me. I mean ask yourself, do you really know what is in most of todays food? I can't understand half the ingredents listed on manufactured food. Its hard to escape this sort of stuff in todays world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    Seems we are about to be (whether we are pregnant of not) medicated to avoid neural tube defects by way of drugs being put in our bread. Seems we can not avoid it unless we are buy organic or unleavend bread. We cant even bake our own as this drug is being added to our flour, though we can of course buy organic flour (ca-ching).

    Recent data shows there is an increased risk of developing cancer, particularly prostate cancer from this drug. Even though the government are not completely happy, becasue of a trade agreement with Australia, this will happen, and will not be reviewed until after it has been introduced.

    Now, while I am ancient, it was not that long ago that when you got pregnant you were prescribed a folic acid pill, to be taken daily to help prevent neural tube defects (spina bifida etc) in our babies. It was matter of course, just like extra iron tablets, and it was free! These days it seems you have to pay for a very expensive (almost $1 a day) pill over the counter, and we get to eat it in our bread regardless! Women will have to eat 11 slices of bread (tui anyone) to get the recommended dose of folic acid.

    I am completely opposed to the government dictating my drug regime, last time I checked I was past the getting pregnant stage anyway. My children dont need it at the moment, and my husband surely does not need to worry excessively about his prostate!

    I say NO to this enforced medication of the populace, and a big yes to giving pregnant, and about to be, trying to be pregnant and breast feeding Mothers this suppliment for free!

    How say you guys?
    seems pointless if you need half a loaf of bread to get the required dose if you actually need it and three quarters o fthe population DONT need it.Flouride in toopaste...maybe

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    There are also studies suggesting that it might be carcinogenic for younger people, which is why the move got shelved in the UK and other countries.....


    Quote Originally Posted by Elysium View Post
    I mean ask yourself, do you really know what is in most of todays food? I can't understand half the ingredents listed on manufactured food. Its hard to escape this sort of stuff in todays world.
    The stuff that I eat = yes.


    Anyways, pregnant chicks don't eat 11 slices of bread, they eat timtams with peanut butter, or meat pies with gherkins.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysium View Post
    Doesn't bother me. I mean ask yourself, do you really know what is in most of todays food? I can't understand half the ingredents listed on manufactured food. Its hard to escape this sort of stuff in todays world.
    I say Bull shit! Educate yourself. I will not buy fortified anything. Eat a healthy, balanced diet and to hell with the health police that insist, nay, legislate and force upon us drugs that most of us dont need.

    Vitamin enriched be buggered, give me good old fashioned healty food thanks.
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    There's a number of organic fruit and vegetable places now that give you a weeks fruit & veg for $20ish delivered to your door!! Too hard you say?

    The money I save not impulse buying toffee pops makes up for whatever miniscule extra I may or may not pay. And with all the tasty goodness in those vegies you can have an extra beer guilt-free!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    There are also studies suggesting that it might be carcinogenic for younger people, which is why the move got shelved in the UK and other countries.....
    The stuff that I eat = yes.
    Anyways, pregnant chicks don't eat 11 slices of bread, they eat timtams with peanut butter, or meat pies with gherkins.......
    And lots of icecream, I recall Fru Jus (how do you spell that anyway?) being a particular MUST HAVE RIGHT FRIGGEN NOW food in my diet once upon a time.

    I pity any Mother right now, I would no more feed my kids folic acid than I would fly to the moon. Luckily I will most likely be dead when the effects are seen in my great grandchildren, hopefully my grandchildren will be safe. Keep the drugs out of my diet!
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    sweet, im jobless again, so i will take all the free drugs i can get.

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    The gloves will be off if they try to put that stuff in pies too, Mom.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysium View Post
    Doesn't bother me. I mean ask yourself, do you really know what is in most of todays food? I can't understand half the ingredents listed on manufactured food. Its hard to escape this sort of stuff in todays world.
    Actually, sorry I will have to quote you again. Yes, I do actually know what is in the food I eat. I recently have had to start taking medication to control high blood pressure, seems you can't avoid a family gene after all. Anyway, needless to say I have come under the microscope of the medicos.

    I have never watched my diet, I detest low fat food, in fact I will not buy it! I eat what I want, when I want! Butter is simply the best thing to fry something in, if you are frying something. I also cook! I mean cook. You know, really cook, from scratch cooking. No (or almost none) pre-prepared anything. If is high fat, I will buy it! I am not fat, neither are any of my kids.

    I had my cholesterol checked. You think I should be worried? Nope, not a jot. Apaprently, even though I dont give a shit about the fat content of my diet I am only just marginally over normal. Even my doctor says I dont have to worry.

    Food police can piss off as far as I am concerned.

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    Look back at generations past and compare to todays. Too many people aint able to look after themselves. Obese childen is starting to become a comman sight these days. Work habbits have changed so that means a lot of people are too tired to make tea when they get home so they buy takeaways instead.....and the reasons just go on.

    I honestly believe stuff like this will happen more often in the future.
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    I heard that Folic Acid in bread can neutralise the effect of Chemotherapy.

    And it also gives you man boobs.
    (I made one of those two up)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysium View Post
    Look back at generations past and compare to todays. Too many people aint able to look after themselves. Obese childen is starting to become a comman sight these days. Work habbits have changed so that means a lot of people are too tired to make tea when they get home so they buy takeaways instead.....and the reasons just go on.

    I honestly believe stuff like this will happen more often in the future.
    Well, if they're buying takeaways, they ain't gonna be getting dosed on bread are they?

    BTW , in NZ it's only going in bread. Oz put it in flour.

    What is extra irksome , is that not only are we getting medicated by order, but it's Australia giving the orders. Oz says "medicate" our gubbermint says "yes Sir". Just cos Ausssies are too stupid to take a pill why should we be foribly medicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Just cos Ausssies are too stupid to take a pill why should we be foribly medicated.
    Because there's a lot of stupid people here that might 'accidently' get pregnant and not think (ha) to take folic acid.

    Check out the fat thread. We have a LOT of stupid people in NZ.

    AND... the politicians say they can't say no. Rubbish. Of course they can. It's easy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Well, if they're buying takeaways, they ain't gonna be getting dosed on bread are they?

    BTW , in NZ it's only going in bread. Oz put it in flour.

    What is extra irksome , is that not only are we getting medicated by order, but it's Australia giving the orders. Oz says "medicate" our gubbermint says "yes Sir". Just cos Ausssies are too stupid to take a pill why should we be foribly medicated.

    I thought we were getting it in flour also? Hmmmm, best I re-educate myself. Um, probably the most disturbing thing is that our Minister for the saftey of food (or what ever its official title is) admits she is not happy with it, but there is apparently NOTHING she can do because of our agreement with Aussie. Hello? How about grow a pair, and say, "nope, we will hesitate here, we want to more fully investigate these findings". No she says, I can't do anything, but I will review it after it has happened. Too friggen late then!

    You guys should not eat bread, unless you have made it yourself.
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