2010 NZ Superbike Road Race Championship dates confirmed

[Shaun]

I am a little puzzled as to why the Superbike Road Race Championship appears to be held at a series of racetracks.

hmmmm, ALL championships for motorcycle racing world wide, are held at different tracks, this is the best way of obtaining the best all round Champion, as all tracks offer different issues

[Robert Taylor]

hmmmm, ALL championships for motorcycle racing world wide, are held at different tracks, this is the best way of obtaining the best all round Champion, as all tracks offer different issues

Exactly so

[Peter Smith]

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Ahhh, the same old half truths, inuendo and rumours about Pukekohe. I reckon this one must come around every 3-4 months.

YES IT DOES, why? because it is all fact, and the shit hole has a negative history[/QUOTE]

It is good that NZ has a variety of track types.
Pukekohe is a high speed track, so when things go wrong you are more likely to get seriously hurt. Phillip Island is another track where you can carry alot of corner speed.
I didn't like Puke at first, but after several race meetings I quite like it.
It would be bloody boring if all the tracks were as tight as Taupo.
Street races are also very dangerous, so it comes down to the rider to decide how much he wants to push the limits.

[Burrt Badger]

Back on track, so to speak, as to why it is more expensive for AMCC to run at Taupo, rather than Pukekohe or Hampton Downs. UMMMM, gee thats tough. As a track worker, if I go to Taupo to work at a circuit, the club pays for me to stay down there for one or two night, depending on the meeting. If I am working at Pukekohe or Hampton Downs, I will Drive/Ride my own vehicle to and from on both days, and get a donation of $20.00 for petrol, but I stay at my home overnight. 40 or so Track Workers and Officials accommodation and transport is not a cheap proposition. Think before you shoot from the lip guys.

[boomer]

Back on track, so to speak, as to why it is more expensive for AMCC to run at Taupo, rather than Pukekohe or Hampton Downs. UMMMM, gee thats tough. As a track worker, if I go to Taupo to work at a circuit, the club pays for me to stay down there for one or two night, depending on the meeting. If I am working at Pukekohe or Hampton Downs, I will Drive/Ride my own vehicle to and from on both days, and get a donation of $20.00 for petrol, but I stay at my home overnight. 40 or so Track Workers and Officials accommodation and transport is not a cheap proposition. Think before you shoot from the lip guys.

tents are free.. its not an executive jolly!

[Burrt Badger]

Provide me with a tent, and I, and probably many like me, turn around and go home or don't even bother fronting up. Don't need 5 star accommodation, but I don't do tents. We volunteer to give up our weekends to enable you guys to race. Doesn't worry me if I take my toy out and go fishing or riding instead of going and working at the racing to let you play with your toy.

[Robert Taylor]

Provide me with a tent, and I, and probably many like me, turn around and go home or don't even bother fronting up. Don't need 5 star accommodation, but I don't do tents. We volunteer to give up our weekends to enable you guys to race. Doesn't worry me if I take my toy out and go fishing or riding instead of going and working at the racing to let you play with your toy.

VERY WELL SAID, there is so much that is taken for granted. Circuits like Hampton are going to require a lot more marshals etc because of blind crests. Where are they all going to come from?
There are so many people doing things for no gain and sometimes I get the feeling that the more you do for nicks the more that is expected.

[Kickaha]

It is good that NZ has a variety of track types.
Pukekohe is a high speed track, so when things go wrong you are more likely to get seriously hurt.

It's not to do with the actual speed, it's to do with the fact there is no runoff in seriously fast parts of the track when things go wrong

How many people has the Hill at Puke crippled or seriously injured?

[scrivy]

I am a little puzzled as to why the Superbike Road Race Championship appears to be held at a series of racetracks.

The Superbike MotoX series is held at goat tracks, and the Superbike buckets are held at cart tracks............

Or am I on a different tangent??????






Piss taking again.............

[KS34]

Come on Guys and Girls, I think we are bloody lucky we still have a National Superbike series, put your head down... Bum up and look for sponsors and ways to enter so we continue to have one!

[Sketchy_Racer]

Come on Guys and Girls, I think we are bloody lucky we still have a National Superbike series, put your head down... Bum up and look for sponsors and ways to enter so we continue to have one!

What he said!!

I thought for a little while there 'nationals' was going to have to be the Suzuki Tri Series.

Bring on Hampton Downs! Glad there's no Puke round!

[Shaun]

What he said!!

I thought for a little while there 'nationals' was going to have to be the Suzuki Tri Series.

Bring on Hampton Downs! Glad there's no Puke round!

You will be just as slow at Hampton as you are at Manfeild, (pffft 1-10.4 in the winter) so why bother to travell there

[Biggles08]

Ahhh, the same old half truths, inuendo and rumours about Pukekohe. I reckon this one must come around every 3-4 months.

Questions:
1) So, how many of those fatalities at the 07 and 08 national championship meetings were a result specifically of the track...?

Answer: None.
The 07 Sidecar accident on the front straight. How many Circuits DON"T have walls separating the main straight and pit lane? The reason was a technical failure in the steering of the sidecar - and if the same had happened at Manfeild, Ruapuna, Phillip Island, taupo, the same result would have happened. Can't see how that is a fault of Pukekohe?

The 08 double fatality - so if the same had happened at another circuit, are you saying that majically, neither rider would have died when one at terminal velocity ran into the back of another rider travelling at a much lower velocity because they were NOT at Pukekohe? Even at the slowest circuits we have in NZ the speed difference could easily be 100+ km/h (shit you only need to be going 160 and someone doing 60) and that'll kill you.

2) People in Wheelchairs:
yes, the area around the hill is not the greatest and I know I take my time through there, much to my detriment. But I also understand one of the riders who was okay subsequently hurt his back in a work incident....

Taupo and Manfeild if you pay attention also have shitty spots.
Taupo Mid length circuit where you re-enter the mainstraight (the one they use for drag racing) is through a gap in a concrete wall, get punted by someone entering theer and where do you end up?
How's the corner of the Pit wall on the start/finish straight.....hm, not keen on hitting that....
Manfeild: Not so much a regular there so not intrinsically aware of issues. But I have been showered with concrete chips standing at Pit wall when a rider coming through the last kink onto the main straight where the startline line is, hit the wall right in front of me.....
Been a few fatal accidents there over the years too, IIRC.

I'm not defending Puke, but lets get the facts straight and also recognise many other circuits have some pretty interesting issues as well, which seem never to get raised here, but in my opinion are just as dangerous.

Are you serious Malcy25???? It dangerous and any halfwit can see that from history...its not a 'half truth' or 'inuendo' it what it is...fact! Like has been said, its not the actual track thats the problem its the lack of run off in particular areas that need it! I was behind Sam Smith at the practice day for the nats this year and I saw him fly into the wall just before going over the hill to the front straight and quite honestly he is a very lucky man to still be with us...it could have been so much worse very easily. Do you race Malcy25? have you been in a race around pukekohe? I would pick you haven't if you think its a safe track!

[Swoop]

hmmmm, ALL championships for motorcycle racing world wide, are held at different tracks, this is the best way of obtaining the best all round Champion, as all tracks offer different issues

Fair enough description, but a track isn't a road. Why the name of the Championship?
Surely "The NZ Superbike Championship" would be more apt?


(Serious question. Just asking.)

[Benk]

Fair enough description, but a track isn't a road. Why the name of the Championship?
Surely "The NZ Superbike Championship" would be more apt?


(Serious question. Just asking.)

Its road racing mate, not track racing FFS