WTF, new rego costs!

**popelli** · 11th August 2009, 17:29

Originally Posted by dipshit

We have BRONZ and other such idiots to thanks for that.

BRONZ lost all credibility over 20 years ago when they voted to support helmet laws and to not even try and get them repealed.

Then Lee Hurley who started BRONZ up left and took a well paid job as a govt advisor and BRONZ lost what little direction they had left

re the rego fees, whilst NZ continues with the no fault ACC system where they levy motorcyclists who are at "fault" motorcyclists will continue to be forced off the road

If it was a true no fault system then it would be completely funded by central govt and the acc levy by vehicle type would be abolished

Glad I left NZ and took my 52 Harley with me, its pre 1971 and road tax exempt in the UK, each year it costs the uk govt money to post out the replacement tax disc

**MarkH** · 11th August 2009, 17:43

Originally Posted by Squiggles

And what do their greenie/money saving intentions have to do with the acc levy part?

Well, the government is saying we need to reduce emissions - so some people opt for more fuel efficient vehicles to do their part. Then another government department slaps on a rather hefty levy to punish those that try to do some good.

Increasing the ACC levy on petrol and completely removing it from the rego would be a good move. Incourage people to use less petrol (cause it's dearer) and get more ACC levy from those that spend more time on the road. If those that spend a lot of time on the road change to more fuel efficient vehicles as a result then it is not an entirely bad thing from an ecological point of view.

**dipshit** · 11th August 2009, 17:46

Originally Posted by popelli

BRONZ lost all credibility over 20 years ago when they voted to support helmet laws and to not even try and get them repealed.

BRONZ lost all credibility when they first decided to oppose compulsory helmet use.

**MDR2** · 11th August 2009, 18:01

less then 7 bucks a week to register a bike... not bad imo

Not that hard to put a few bucks to one side for the unavoidable rego cost in 12 months time... and then it's not so much of a shock to the wallet.

It's not like they spring it on you, you can't say you didn't know it was coming.

**Jizah** · 11th August 2009, 18:06

"I'm going to punch you in the face"

What's the problem? You knew about it.

And they did sort of spring it on us. I need a new one next week, I didn't know the price had gone up. Quite significantly too.

**SMOKEU** · 11th August 2009, 18:20

Originally Posted by MarkH

Well, the government is saying we need to reduce emissions - so some people opt for more fuel efficient vehicles to do their part. Then another government department slaps on a rather hefty levy to punish those that try to do some good.

Increasing the ACC levy on petrol and completely removing it from the rego would be a good move. Incourage people to use less petrol (cause it's dearer) and get more ACC levy from those that spend more time on the road. If those that spend a lot of time on the road change to more fuel efficient vehicles as a result then it is not an entirely bad thing from an ecological point of view.

Then they will also increase tax on diesel which will increase the rate of inflation, so most things you buy will be more expensive. The majority of things we buy from shops gets delivered to the shops by truck, not by horse and cart these days.

**idleidolidyll** · 11th August 2009, 18:25

Blame the weekend MX riders and farmers: You get to pay for the ACC charges covering their accidents in addition to actual on road prangs

Think about it:

Bruised and broken person heads to Doc. Doc asks what happened, Farmer and weekend MX riders who may not even ride road bikes say: "I fell off my motorcycle"

Doc writes as ACC claim. Now how many weekend MX accidents do you think there are compared to actual road crashes??

Is there anyone there who can confirm that this is how it works?

**Squiggles** · 11th August 2009, 18:50

Originally Posted by idleidolidyll

Blame the weekend MX riders and farmers: You get to pay for the ACC charges covering their accidents in addition to actual on road prangs

Think about it:

Bruised and broken person heads to Doc. Doc asks what happened, Farmer and weekend MX riders who may not even ride road bikes say: "I fell off my motorcycle"

Doc writes as ACC claim. Now how many weekend MX accidents do you think there are compared to actual road crashes??

Is there anyone there who can confirm that this is how it works?

How many mx bikes are over 750cc? Cant blame em for that 35%

**MDR2** · 11th August 2009, 19:05

Originally Posted by Jizah

"I'm going to punch you in the face"

What's the problem? You knew about it.

And they did sort of spring it on us. I need a new one next week, I didn't know the price had gone up. Quite significantly too.

Fairly retarded reply, seems your a little hot under the collar and not open to reasonable suggestions and out there concepts like the 'plan for the future' idea i put forward.

I wasn't reffering to the springing of the new cost either more the actual payment of rego... also, im sure there was a news release type of deal last year or early this year with regards to the new levy's

good luck with life.

**MDR2** · 11th August 2009, 19:08

Originally Posted by idleidolidyll

Blame the weekend MX riders and farmers: You get to pay for the ACC charges covering their accidents in addition to actual on road prangs

Think about it:

Bruised and broken person heads to Doc. Doc asks what happened, Farmer and weekend MX riders who may not even ride road bikes say: "I fell off my motorcycle"

Doc writes as ACC claim. Now how many weekend MX accidents do you think there are compared to actual road crashes??

Is there anyone there who can confirm that this is how it works?

Theres a spot on the ACC45 form that asks 'Did the accident happen on a public road' Yes/No

How the weekend mx and farmers are funded i have not yet been able to find out.

**scumdog** · 11th August 2009, 19:08

Originally Posted by dipshit

BRONZ lost all credibility when they first decided to oppose compulsory helmet use.

Imagine how high the ACC levy would be today if helmet wearing was optional....

**scumdog** · 11th August 2009, 19:10

Originally Posted by Katman

There are some seriously deluded motorcyclists out there.

Has anybody got the figures of car vs bike compared to bike crashes where only the bike was involved?

I suspect Katman may not be too far off the mark.....

**MDR2** · 11th August 2009, 19:13

Originally Posted by scumdog

Has anybody got the figures of car vs bike compared to bike crashes where only the bike was involved?

I suspect Katman may not be too far off the mark.....

the very stats you ask for have been posted previously in another thread

the number 1 cause of bike crashes recorded is rider error.

I'll find it if I can