Best Frenemy you could have!
Supermoto is pretty similar so I will pitch in...
Nope, I have never ever got 20km/L. Normally around 15 ish, but drops to 13 alarmingly fast.
If your gearing is the same as mine, yeup, I can't do 110 in 6th, has to be 5th. Only really happy in 6th at 130kph. I'll drop a tooth on the front when the sprockets have to be replaced.
Yes, I can hold my bike at 110 ish (with a small fluctuation) for long periods of time... just imagine a cop around every corner
Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
terra firma rider
I've already dropped to a 16 tooth front (from the 17) but am still on the 41 rear. When I replace the chain and spockets next I'll be doing 16/45 i.e. crazy wheelie machine = me scare sh1tless (not really my scene). This is so I can use 6th at 100ish and will have great low speed gearing. At the moment I have to be 110+ to use 6th comfortably (16/41). Original gearing would be great in Europe on the 130kph motorways.
Restraint with the right wrist is something I'm having to learn as well. Way too much fun to crank it open! 100kph comes up super fast compared to the DR650 LOL.
I rode mine back from NN when I first got it. Lotsa ice and crap on the roads (was couple of months ago) so I had to take it pretty easy. Managed to get 300km till the fuel light came on but I'm not entirely sure how much juice that is (950 has the fuel pump outside the tank i.e. more capacity). I did fill up in Much which is about 150kms and I think I put in 10l i.e. 15 km/l. Doubt it will get much better than that unless I start playing with jetting.
Cheers R
"The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools." - Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)
Just faidin away!
I looked up the specs for your bike!
I don't think the Tiger was markedly different in fuel usage when ridden like that - and of course it couldn't match the KTM when the KTM rider really started to use its performance anyway!!
If we both left here and rode to Christchurch, I would get there easily and you would have to fuel up at Ashburton!
Tortoise and the hare situation,
You could rush ahead on your (marginally) faster more powerful bike and keep stopping for fuel and tyres!
While I trundle smoothly and economically on to our destination, yep, that could work for us!
Moped rider
Originally Posted by oldrider
I don't think the Tiger was markedly different in fuel usage when ridden like that - and of course it couldn't match the KTM when the KTM rider really started to use its performance anyway!!
Hey Brucie, you have got the perfect set-up really:
When you want economy, performance and reliability, ride the Tiger!
When economy, performance and reliability are not an issue, take the KTM!
That certain oldrider is knows how to ride his Tiger in all conditions and has been known to Puff this Tiger Rider Off.
But really the trick is to ride a bike like you stole it and take it places that it should'nt be.
It works for me over and over again.
And i doubt if any 990 Ktm would see 20k's to the ltr.
My old 01 did 21kltr on the way to the passes ride from chch to Dunedin.
And i 've just got back from Taupo today and got 19k's to the ltr. At a steady 110k's as i picked up a pussy ticket for 116k's an hr. Shit happens.
Hardcore Biker
You need to count again, 42 is the factory rear, a 16-42 cruises fine at open road speed in 6th so I wouldn't be rushing to put a 45 on the back unless you want to loss the top end. I considered it when I did the sprockets/chain the other week but know what we cruise at and it would be rev'n alot harder on the open road.
They are a wheelie machine without a 45
In the words of Juan-Manuel Fangio "Brakes they only slow you down"
terra firma rider
Opps yep 42 at the moment. Mine would be doing about 3700/3800 at 100kph in 6th. It's not that happy at that rpm at 100kph. Much happier at 110 in 6th. 16/42 to 16/45 is a 6.7% change i.e. drop from 110 to 103 at happy revs in 6th = perfect for me. I'm not into anything more than 100/110 crusing. If I loose my licence I loose my job regardless of if I get the ticket when I am working or not.You need to count again, 42 is the factory rear, a 16-42 cruises fine at open road speed in 6th so I wouldn't be rushing to put a 45 on the back unless you want to loss the top end. I considered it when I did the sprockets/chain the other week but know what we cruise at and it would be rev'n alot harder on the open road.
They are a wheelie machine without a 45
Cheers R
"The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools." - Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)
Hardcore Biker
The idea is not to get caught
In the words of Juan-Manuel Fangio "Brakes they only slow you down"
Moped rider
Even if i had a radar detector i reckon i would have got snapped.The idea is not to get caught
Came around a corner and bang Gone.
And the Pommie Import Lady Cop said it was just bad luck for me, What ever.
Go pick on some really dick head drivers out there.....
And then she asked me how many tickets i have had, i told her to ring up and ask her com's. She was saying that i looked liked a repeat offender.
After she rang them in front off me she did say sorry for the implication.
Two tickets in 14 yrs, on demerts. Now 20 D's and $120.00 out off pocket to help her pay packet. That works not.
Hardcore Biker
Was a comment on Cooneyr sayin he can't afford to get tickets
The idea is to get on the shingle and the plod can go play with the cars.
In the words of Juan-Manuel Fangio "Brakes they only slow you down"
Backroads Blaster
Supermoto is pretty similar so I will pitch in...
Nope, I have never ever got 20km/L. Normally around 15 ish, but drops to 13 alarmingly fast
Yes, I can hold my bike at 110 ish (with a small fluctuation) for long periods of time... just imagine a cop around every cornerI fuelled up today and it worked out at 16.6km/l which I'm not too unhappy about as it wasn't a particularly economical tankful
I don't think I will change the gearing - when cruising at 110 its OK and running like an overdrive (and hopefully saving fuel unless its labouring) and you just have to be prepared to click it down one or two for an overtaking or hill etc. 1st gear is quite tall and a bit of clutch slipping is often required to get underway (the hydraulic clutch is SO much lighter to use than the Tiger's - the Tiger became a literal pain in the wrist around town)
How far is it from your place to ChCh ?I looked up the specs for your bike!
If we both left here and rode to Christchurch, I would get there easily and you would have to fuel up at Ashburton!
Tortoise and the hare situation,
As it happens I would be more than happy to ride with you and we'd probably use about the same rate of fuel - where the extra "performance" would come into its own would be when we weren't on the seal
Sounds like you should have shaved you dodgy looking bastardEven if i had a radar detector i reckon i would have got snapped.
Came around a corner and bang Gone.
And the Pommie Import Lady Cop said it was just bad luck for me, What ever.
Go pick on some really dick head drivers out there.....
And then she asked me how many tickets i have had, i told her to ring up and ask her com's. She was saying that i looked liked a repeat offender.
Good to hear from you again Mark - you're right about the radar detectors - theres a lot of luck involved in them helping and in many cases with a "skilled" operator on the radar you've got no chance.
I haven't had a ticket for a while and am back down to 20 demerits - would be nice to get it back to zero again but I suspect my luck may run out at some stage. Until that happens I guess like most of us we pick our moments to turn the tap on!!
Don't let what you can't do stop you from doing what you can do - Sir Tim Wallis
Backroads Blaster
Hmmm - popping wheelies from 100km/hr - theres something to consider on my way back to the farm tomorrow morningI once asked a chap what he felt was the main difference between the Tiger 955i and the 990 Adventure. Answer: "wheelies from 100km/h... get the KTM!" (That was Paul, for you Nelsonians' familiar with his antics, and rest assured 4skins your bike was properly "run in")
Don't let what you can't do stop you from doing what you can do - Sir Tim Wallis
Talentless Tryhard!
If you had followed any of my rants re 990adv, you would see that I regularly get consumption in the high 12K's/L when working it. 14+ would be a safe 'average' from my experience, changing back up to the 17t did not seem to improve the economy any.
I have run the tank empty 3 times and can say with certainty that only 21L will fit in there( piss poor 4 an intercontinental adventurer).
A big point to remember: the speedo reads very optimistically, don't for a moment belive you are actually DOING 110km just because its reading so....I have checked 2 x 990's and both are 7-8km/hr high at 100 and nearer 10kph at 130!
I know, youall still love em
I'm no gynaecologist, however I would be happy to take a look......................
Where's the ride?
That's pretty normal for all vehicles, bikes & cars. Nothing to be concerned about, it's just annoying but by no means a problem unique to this bike.A big point to remember: the speedo reads very optimistically, don't for a moment belive you are actually DOING 110km just because its reading so....I have checked 2 x 990's and both are 7-8km/hr high at 100 and nearer 10kph at 130!
Cheers,
Colin
Garmin Geek
With the GPS alongside two KTM's, my 640A and a 950A together, the speedo was identical but the GPS read approx 6km/hr lower...A big point to remember: the speedo reads very optimistically, don't for a moment belive you are actually DOING 110km just because its reading so....I have checked 2 x 990's and both are 7-8km/hr high at 100 and nearer 10kph at 130!
I know, youall still love em
Just faidin away!
It's over 300km, my fuel light comes on going along Moorehouse Avenue! (220miles on the trip meter)
That usually leaves about 5-6 litres in the tank, so it's not too heavy to lift off for servicing!
The same mileages apply when I ride down the back roads (mainly gravel) to your place and fill up at Balclutha!
You might be wise to read ducatijim's post below Brucie or you could end up walking! Unless of course, you take your Tiger!
If you had followed any of my rants re 990adv, you would see that I regularly get consumption in the high 12K's/L when working it. 14+ would be a safe 'average' from my experience, changing back up to the 17t did not seem to improve the economy any.
I have run the tank empty 3 times and can say with certainty that only 21L will fit in there( piss poor 4 an intercontinental adventurer).
A big point to remember: the speedo reads very optimistically, don't for a moment belive you are actually DOING 110km just because its reading so....I have checked 2 x 990's and both are 7-8km/hr high at 100 and nearer 10kph at 130!
I know, youall still love em
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