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    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    If I only got caught for no WOF, I wouldn't be moaning about it - that was fair enough, and it was only two weeks out, and I got a new one and won't have to pay the fine - I have no issue with all that.
    So how come you don't have to pay the $200 WOF fine the pedantic, revenue gathering nazi gave you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indoo View Post
    So how come you don't have to pay the $200 WOF fine the pedantic, revenue gathering nazi gave you?
    Because I had it booked in, and because you have 14 days to get a copy of your new WOF sent in to them, from when you were fined.

    I have a number of vehicles, and change them on a regular basis, some only need a WOF once a year, others every 6 months, so keeping track on WOF's and insurance is bit of a pain
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    What a bugger aye

    As I have mentioned before on this site, some officers of the law have a fair and reasonable attitude, others are just pricks, and unfortunately you cant beat the law.
    My son was driving my car with me a passenger the other day, he slowed from 100kmhr to 70kmhr at the 70 kmhr sign. I told him he was in a 70km/hr zone he has to do 70, not 85 and slowing. We had a good discussion about the fact a cop "would never fine you for slowing down" within the 70km zone. I said this is my car slow down, now else I will get the ticket. I had to convince him that much of the fine is just for revenue purposes, and some police officers especially the newbies have no sense of justice, that comes with age and experience, they go by the book, just like robocop... but it does make you think twice next time if get caught.
    I bet you will be more cautious next time.

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    Strange that, giving you compliance letting you avoid a 200 dollar fine when its all about the money.

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    smokey, put this one down to esperience,some Police Officers will allow discretion, some won't.
    Some and I say "some" with the knowing smile that says trying to find one would be harder than finding rocking horse shit, "parking wardens" will let you off being in a 5 min bay when you've been 8 or 10 even.
    Our Police, are us too, make allowances, speed up when you're past the sign and then try to stay within the limits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indoo View Post
    Strange that, giving you compliance letting you avoid a 200 dollar fine when its all about the money.
    No - not strange
    He gave me the ticket for no WOF $200 regardless of the fact it was only two weeks out and I had it booked in, it just so happens I know about the 14 days you have to get it done. It's actually part of the law.
    The police have tried to change it, (under John Banks) but failed to get political support for it.
    It's the same as if you get caught for not having your license on you, they may fine you but you actually have 7 days (I think it's 7 days) in which to present at your local police station with it. Cops don't tell you that though do they

    Quotas and revenue gathering behavior has been exposed several times now in the media, and the police have had to own up to it
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    Quote Originally Posted by AD345 View Post
    Random thoughts on the thread:

    2. God the "trackdays" line is tired. The vast majority of people did not buy their bikes to go round and round the same 2 - 5 km of tarseal looking at Armco's for scenery. I'm hard pressed to think of a more tedious way to spend time on a motorcycle.
    A very valid post you added to this thread under the guise of 'random thoughts' AD345. Most of it I thought was well thought out...of course I had to respond to the above comment since I presume it was directed at my previous post.

    To clarify, I understand racing or tracks (trackdays) are not for everyone. Not eveyone rides a bike to push them to their performance limits and hence the road is the place for destinations/scenery and lots of other reasons. If you re-read my post it is only directed to those riders who think that speeding (I use this word on purpose again) can be done safely on the road...it can't be due to lots of unforseeable factors....Don't misinterperate what I'm saying though...I firmly believe that you can on "most" occassions, safely exceed the set speed limit that our nanny state has put in place and despite what the cops believe and are trained, 100kph is not a magic number!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggles08 View Post
    A very valid post you added to this thread under the guise of 'random thoughts' AD345. Most of it I thought was well thought out...of course I had to respond to the above comment since I presume it was directed at my previous post.

    To clarify, I understand racing or tracks (trackdays) are not for everyone. Not eveyone rides a bike to push them to their performance limits and hence the road is the place for destinations/scenery and lots of other reasons. If you re-read my post it is only directed to those riders who think that speeding (I use this word on purpose again) can be done safely on the road...it can't be due to lots of unforseeable factors....Don't misinterperate what I'm saying though...I firmly believe that you can on "most" occassions, safely exceed the set speed limit that our nanny state has put in place and despite what the cops believe and are trained, 100kph is not a magic number!
    LOL

    Very polite of you mate.

    It wasn't directed against you personally, but yep you did raise it. "Tedious" is a little tongue in cheek but I really don't see tracks as an alternative to the open road.
    Not for me anyway.
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    this little area is a favorite haunt for the huntly cop...all cops like the interface areas where speed limits change ... its money for jam really ... they can spend the day eating donuts and then head out into these zones and fill the days quota in half an hour ... we just have to get smarter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD345 View Post
    LOL

    Very polite of you mate.

    It wasn't directed against you personally, but yep you did raise it. "Tedious" is a little tongue in cheek but I really don't see tracks as an alternative to the open road.
    Not for me anyway.
    I'm glad you have qualified your point a bit, but I ask if you have ever been to a track?

    The topic relates to speed, so if you wanna go fast, then I submit you try doing it on a race track. I have had fun going round the track on an original GSX250, and an SRX600. I would have a fuckin ball doing it on a Harley too.

    If you enjoy going fast as you dare, then do a track day, I've never gotten bored riding that same 3-5 km circuit yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reofix View Post
    we just have to get smarter!
    Ironic that. Is the smart option not, to obey the speed limits?

    I am not saying I do it, but that I know I should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    I'm glad you have qualified your point a bit, but I ask if you have ever been to a track?
    In a previous lifetime

    The topic relates to speed,
    No it doesn't, it relates to exceeding a posted limit
    so if you wanna go fast,
    As above - 84 kmh is hardly fast

    then I submit you try doing it on a race track.
    Why ask the first question if you already thought you knew the answer?

    I have had fun going round the track on an original GSX250, and an SRX600. I would have a fuckin ball doing it on a Harley too.
    I'm very happy for ya - really.

    If you enjoy going fast as you dare, then do a track day,
    I don't need a track to go as fast as I dare - I doubt anyone does.

    Think about that for a moment

    I've never gotten bored riding that same 3-5 km circuit yet.
    I'm still happy for ya - seriously
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    Drew... respect for the law is an earned thing ... I heard the national traffic enforcment lady prattling on about removing the risk of talking on cellphones ... yet every night every citizen in the cities of NZ hear the little racer shits blasting around the streets while the cops are tucked up in bed ,getting a good sleep in so they can hand out tickets to people the govt know will actually pay them . respect is a fine thing........ now they can earn it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD345 View Post
    In a previous lifetime



    No it doesn't, it relates to exceeding a posted limit


    As above - 84 kmh is hardly fast



    Why ask the first question if you already thought you knew the answer?



    I'm very happy for ya - really.


    I don't need a track to go as fast as I dare - I doubt anyone does.

    Think about that for a moment



    I'm still happy for ya - seriously
    I was in no way trying to bait you, or make example for some point I might be trying to make, but since ya wanna take it that way, I'll play along.

    I can do without sarcastic remarks, when I was genuinely just saying you might like it.

    I assumed nothing about what you have or have not done, (although now I assume you pull your old wrinkled cock a lot).

    Fuck it, why bother wasting my time when you would rather belittle, then converse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reofix View Post
    respect is a fine thing........ now they can earn it!!
    I have always been angered by that idea.

    Respect is not earned, it's given. Praise or admiration is earned.

    Everyone deserves respect, until such time they do not give the same courtesy. Simple.

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