Buell voted best handling...again.

[hospitalfood]

Q -Whats the difference between a Buell and me.

A - the buell is not a piece of shit

your to hard on yourself mate

[Big Dave]

plus alot of fun if you don't push them above their limit .

Which is beyond the speed limit anyway and my licence is my gig - which is partly why I like them so much.

Plus the way they corner.

[Sensei]

[QUOTE=hospitalfood -your to hard on yourself mate

I'm not the one trying to defend what I'm riding ,You must not read my post so good ? I'm looking at buying a Buell !! Just to much fun now take the piss out of you > Keep it coming Tho

[Drew]

So what? that's the same place all the other makers quote their 'performance' figures from.
And looking at the magazine reviews that dyno bikes and give RWHP some of those makers 'factory' HP figures appear to be more 'designers target figures' not actual engine HP.

Mines a lot faster than stock due to all the layers of polish on it

The thing is, if there was a global law stating that makers had to provide RWHP figures, a whole lot of posers would find a lot of extra room around their balls in their spanky one-piece suits. (where's the shrinking scrotum smilie?).

Meh - I'm a bit of a grandad anyway, and I'll pull to the left to let the bikes in a real hurry pass - it's better than some arse bandit kissing your rear tyre on a public road.

The reason everyone quote crankshaft horse power, is because it is a mathmatical equation to get that figure, and in theory it's accurate. There is no way physically, or theoretically get an ACCURATE rear wheel horse power figure.

Ducati wanked on for ages about dyno testing every bike that came off the assembly line. The owners then had more reason to be fuckwits and spout bullshit about the power they had. Only thing is, a rolling road dyno is all shit. They are not a true measure of anything, except percentages of increase or decrease, compared to itself as a motor is being tuned.

[YellowDog]

I am very happy for Buell. It is good to see a bike that has been around for a while winning, rather than a new and untested piece of high-tech.

I don't think it actually maters who wins such awards. Having a bike in the top 10 would be nice however far more important is to ride a bike that you are able to manage and feel comfortable with.

I didn't feel at all comforatble on the winning bike, but my thanks go to AMPS for letting me sit on one.

[jack_hamma]

Ahhhhhhhhh

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufactur...0rr-67164.html
hospitalfood

[hospitalfood]

mate, it takes me to a vid about honda's.

yep a good bike, but its not for me.

i will stick with my prehistoric technology for the mean time, both of my bikes are pushrod engines, very simple low maintenance engines, generally regarded as highly relaiable engines.
no liquid cooling etc, just very simple bikes.

I dont want to own a jap bike, i know they are fast but i don't like them. when buying my buell it was a toss-up between the buell and a rsvr, and im glad i choose the buell, i dont care that the rsvr has more hp.

i dont understand why people come into this thread and say how slow/bad buells are, perhaps some kind of niggle because their own bikes are not as iconic, despite the fact that their bikes have more hp

[YellowDog]

100% with you on that. I know guys on 1980s BMWs who would not trade for anything else.

[onearmedbandit]

Wow the way some bike owners get so defensive and upset when someone dares criticise their choice of ride you'd almost think they'd designed, fabricated, and painstakingly handbuilt it themselves. Guess what? You didn't, you simply bought it. And (get ready for this one - it's the cruncher!) some people may not like your choice in bike. So your choices are as follows. A) Get really upset about it and attack anyone who disagrees with you and call them names or, B) don't even let it bother you and go for a ride on the bike you like. Works for me.

[avgas]

Everybody fucks up occasionally.

In Eric Buell's case its when he builds a bike. He fucked it up many moons ago and Harley came to the rescue. Now the plonkers have put him back in charge and the first thing he does is make an ugly bike and scrap one of their best selling bikes (Blast) when the world is crying out for big singles (case and point Mac Motorcycles - who will make a killing out of the old Blast motors).
Don't be surprised if the XB12S disappears on Eric's rampage of marketing only the bikes HE likes.

[Big Dave]

In Eric Buell's case its when he builds a bike. He fucked it up many moons ago and Harley came to the rescue.

Bwahhahahahaah! Fuck that's funny. Well done.

[2much]

Why?

If you read it, it is to quote: "Here's a top 5 countdown of the bikes rated highest for handling by user reviewers in the MCN bike reviews section."
Does not mean it's a crock of shit.

Maybe every Buell rider voted distorting the votes, possibly Suzuki riders were too busy repairing their crashed bikes, maybe Honda riders were busy choosing new fabric for their drapes, Harley riders were probably online ordering bling and Italian bike riders were at work saving up for their next service ...........

Whatever the reason that's the results and judging by the owners feedback in this post relating to the handling of the bikes (what the award is about, not power) it may well be deserved.

I feel the need for a test ride ......

Of interest to the power freaks who have posted - power and handling are separate issues, indeed I suspect if you had a 160hp engine in the X series Buell the handling would probably degrade. As a owner of a 110hp bike I can attest to the fun that can be had at speeds under warp factor 10.

Yes I read that it's a 'user review', but I still believe that their results are bs and suspect that only 5 'users' (read; noobs who have only riden a gn250 to compare) replied. While handling is always going to be a matter of opinion, and 100 different people will 100 different conclusions, those results are so 'out of wack' that it's laughable. I'm surprised they bother to print such crap.

I've owned a K2 GSXR1000, and while it's a great bike, it certainly ain't #4 even of the list of bikes I've ridden. I mean, what the fuck is it doing in front of the K6 750? And I've spent a bit of yime onboard an XB12S, and while it is a nice bike, that hands pretty well, it's still far from the 'be all and end all' of motorcycle handling. Personally I'd rate the R above the S in anything but tight 1st gear corners.

As for the comment on power (where the fuck did I mention anything about power output?), while I agree that max hp is not a factor in handling (hell I have a 65hp RS250 that would almost certainly run rings around all those supposed top 5). Tractability and delivery of power most certainly are import factors in how well a bike handles.

So basically, having experienced 3 of those bikes, I look at the results and call "bullshit". I don't give a fuck how they came up with it.

Go get that test ride, then see if you agree.

[The Stranger:Me]

So to put this in a perspective.
If we are to believe this link, then the K1 GSXR 1000 handles better than all the GSXR's after it, is this correct?

[98tls]

iconic,

That must be a wonderful place you live in.A 78 Ducati 900 SS is iconic,ive no problem with Buells but there a long way from being described as so,though the early ones could be termed somewhat ironic.

[Big Dave]

What it means to me is a kind of confirmation that Erik's theory of centrailised mass works.

The amount of manufacturers that are slinging the muffler underneath the vehicle now is also is a pointer.

a number of manfs have started relocating where the fuel is kept too - lower down and more central.