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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    blah blah blah etc
    I can vouch for this bastard. He can't make coffee for shit, but is VERY honest to deal with, and is VERY helpful.
    Bought a bike from WMCC a few years ago, and had a pre-arranged delivery time (they brought the bike from WG to NP foc, in the back of their van)
    Cheeky pricks turned up half an hour early, too
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
    I find it ironic that the incredibly rude personal comments about Les were made by someone bearing an astonishing resemblance to a Monica Lewinsky dress accessory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    I can vouch for this bastard. He can't make coffee for shit, but is VERY honest to deal with, and is VERY helpful.
    Bought a bike from WMCC a few years ago, and had a pre-arranged delivery time (they brought the bike from WG to NP foc, in the back of their van)
    Cheeky pricks turned up half an hour early, too
    Shucks fanks mate! BUT...my coffee is the bizz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    BUT...my coffee is the bizz!
    Shit is spelt: S H I T.... NOT: B I Z Z

    Unless you've given me the mug of water you keep the teaspoons in, by mistake of course.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
    I find it ironic that the incredibly rude personal comments about Les were made by someone bearing an astonishing resemblance to a Monica Lewinsky dress accessory.

    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
    All was good until I realised that having 105kg of man sliding into my rear was a tad uncomfortable after a while

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    Shit is spelt: S H I T.... NOT: B I Z Z

    Unless you've given me the mug of water you keep the teaspoons in, by mistake of course.....
    Nope...I just stired yours with the toilet brush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Nope...I just stired yours with the toilet brush.
    Well, just one lump of that candy next time, not two.
    Actually, I'll bring my bloody Thermos with me......
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
    I find it ironic that the incredibly rude personal comments about Les were made by someone bearing an astonishing resemblance to a Monica Lewinsky dress accessory.

    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
    All was good until I realised that having 105kg of man sliding into my rear was a tad uncomfortable after a while

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    Quote Originally Posted by RC1 View Post
    just spend your money at the next dealer along from them
    Sometimes thats an option....
    Sales People dont ever talk money until they know what you have to spend or, until they know how much you are willing to let go of.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Densial View Post
    ok, so a week ago I was over at cyclespot trying on a bike. I quite like it and after thinking for the week I thought I would be a bit cheaky and make a low ball over, see what happened.

    So I send the nice salesman who's card I had an email saying I tried this particular bike on for size and would be interested in talking turkey. He sent back and email and said sure, give him a call. I did and told him I wanted a bike and liked this one and wanted a good deal, it was new after all!

    He asked me what I wanted to pay, I told him, and he said that actually he didn't have that bike anymore, but did I want this other one instead!
    The bastard... he knew you wanted a bike, knew what type you were after, established your budget and tried to provide a solution???

    Quote Originally Posted by Densial View Post
    how's THAT for cheaky, I've been telling my work mates, cheaky isn't really the word they used but you get the drift. Anyone else have any problems with these dudes?
    Cheeky... No!
    Problematic? No!
    Taking some initiative... Yes
    Offering a possible alternative to meet your needs and limitation? Yes
    Doing his job? Yes
    Outsmarting you? Yes

    Build a bridge, or does the last point still hurt a little?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Densial View Post
    ynot slow: exactly my point, not that I was that cheeky, I only asked for a 20% discount.

    Or is that reeeally cheeky.
    You are either joking or you seriously believe they have margin in the bike that exceeds 20%, which I very seriously would doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Densial View Post
    actually, it's more about him asking me what I would be willing to offer for the bike THEN telling me he didn't actually have it any more. don't get me wrong, these guys have to make a living too and I am more than happy to help with that, I need these guys to service my bike, sell me parts and (eventually) take it back and sell me a new one, but when I ask someone for a deal and they lead me on with "ok so what are you looking to pay" and THEN say he doesn't have it any more, that's when it sounds dodge to me. If he had said straight up front "sorry we've sold that one, give me a call and I will do you a good deal on a later model" then I would have given him a call, but he didn't. Pretty simple. I got plenty of cash to spend and am gagging for a new bike, explain to me how miss-representing stock levelsn to me on the phone helps his cause.
    I see what you are saying, sounds like the salesman was looking to "gazump" the deal, tisk tisk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    You are either joking or you seriously believe they have margin in the bike that exceeds 20%, which I very seriously would doubt.
    I see nothing wrong with a buyer offering to buy a bike for 20% under the listed price, just as I see nothing wrong with the seller saying 'no' and then giving a counter offer. It's just good ol' haggling. When I bought mine it was listed on Trademe at a bargain price, so I rang and asked if they would take less, when they said they wouldn't go below the price listed I was clicking on 'buy now' before the conversation was over. I knew the price was too good to pass up even before I asked for a better price.
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    when i ordered my new bike i said i want a jacket thrown in with it. no problem
    Thats whats up.

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    personally when im selling anything I cant stand it when people EXPECT some sort of deal, so for you to ask him for a good deal because "it was new afterall!" is wankish at best.

    do you know the salesman beyond the breif conversation you've had with him? do you expect to maintain your friendship beyond the sale? shout him a beer when he's down? lend him your tools or the trailer? do you even know his name or is he just some salesman that you think you've got all worked out?

    the idea of being a good salesman is to sell the product at it's value, not less, so if you right off the bat ask him for a deal you're pretty much saying "im not going to pay you for your knowledge of the bike, your recommendation as a good bike for me, infact I'm going to charge you for it" it's counter productive for the salesman agree and continue, if a bike is advertised at $15,000 then it's worth $15,000 if the salesman does his job, and you will be willing to pay all $15,000 too.

    it's even worse when some cunt expects you to sell them the product at cost, what a fucking insult, if im not going to get paid for this sale then im not going to bother selling to you, the next customer might be more willing to recognise skill and be willing to pay for it.

    do you think we just know this stuff? that we're born with this knowledge of finding you the best product? and it is the best product for you because like a motorcyclist takes pride in his riding, a salesman takes pride in his customer service.

    it's made even worse when working in a place that doesnt pay a comission and therefore doesnt give discounts, but the ignorent fucking customer doesnt realise that because the salesman is not paid a comission the advice he's giving isn't just to get a sale it's genuine advice on the product, they've asked fielding questions and based upon what you've told them this is the product for you.

    friends and family on the other hand I'll do a deal for (if work place allows) it's one of the perks of knowing me or being a family member of me, if you're none of the above think twice before insulting my integrity.

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    If you get insulted by a low ball offer then your either in the wrong game, or not in the game at all. People can offer any price they pull out of their backsides, what your cost is has nothing to do with them looking to spend as little as possible. Just like a company can ask any price they can think of, People may not buy it but I doubt they are going to take it personally.

    Its pretty simple stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave- View Post
    , if you're none of the above think twice before insulting my integrity.
    I'd love to insult your integrity you twat.

    I'd also love to see you tell your customers they are cunts ( how does calling your bread and butter a pack of cunts fit it with your integrity) to their faces.....tough guy.

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    I'm not sure I really understand the gripe.

    I suspect that CP would have sold you the bike you wanted at a reasonable price.

    Your 'low ball' told the salesman that you wern't serious (even though you were), so he told you it was sold (it may or may not have been).

    Asking you how much you want to offer for it was a bit daft "ten bucks mate" is not conducive to closing a deal.

    If you'd agree a deal, put it in writing of it's not a deal. If you get a great deal, go get the cash and take it away as someone, or else someone might grab it before you.

    I don't balme the saleman or business owner. Why should they wait for a one day maybe? Pay full price or accept the tribulations of dealing for a bargain. It's not easy being in business.
    (just my thoughts, you don't have to agree with me)

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