Whining lawyers

[The Stranger:Me]

Cos the legal system is set so that the layperson is very effectively shut out, if you try doing any legal stuff yourself, the other persons lawyers will screw you over.

There isn't really any viable alternative for him to use..... Don't pay the lawyers whatever they feel like billing you = getting hurt.
But just because that is so, it doesn't mean that the level of charges are fair on the client or even justified.

You are of course right - to a point.
Despite my last post, I must confess I have spent more time with lawyers than any man should have to. This was mostly because of construction disputes.
Unfortunately the construction industry is much like KB, everyone's opinion is valid and no one is ever wrong, so we all needed to go to court to prove this right.
Fuck off, settle! Avoid court and lawyers at all costs. Help the other party see reason, make damn sure they know what it will cost them to go to court. Here's a curly one. Entertain the idea you may just be wrong and be prepared to be conciliatory. Hell even if you know you are right, but it's heading to court despite your best efforts, be prepared to yield. Unless you KNOW (not KB know, but real know) you are 100% in the right, stay away - even then be prepared for the worst (Used to be that 55% of cases appealed fromt he district court were overturned, I doubt that has changed). NEVER go to court on a matter of "principal", you will loose - even if you win.

[SPman]

...............construction disputes...........

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and sometimes they're worse, all because at least one of the parties is a certified fuckwit who KNOWS he's in the right!

Much better to stay well away from them - preferably about .308 range - it would often be easier........

[pete376403]

The gummint can hardly grizzle over defense lawyers spending the hours/dollars they do to try and get a favourable result for their clients - after all there doesn't seem to be any limit on how much the prosecution will spend to get a conviction.

[peasea]

The gummint can hardly grizzle over defense lawyers spending the hours/dollars they do to try and get a favourable result for their clients - after all there doesn't seem to be any limit on how much the prosecution will spend to get a conviction.

Damned good point. Try and prove your innocence when up against the Po-Lees Dee-part-ment.

You're guilty until you can prove otherwise and legal aid lawyers are not your best defence. You need to re-mortgage your house for a good (sic) lawyer and even if you're found not guilty/innocent/whatever there's little help for you when you are released.

Groan........

[Timber020]

If your having to quote so hard to get work and to many are not making enough the problem is pretty obvious and it can be fixed with my itchy trigger finger. To many lawyers. I lived in the states for a while, its a shining example of how badly a whole nation and its people can be screwed when lawyers have to much influence.

Plenty of small businesses survive on less than 175k a year, thousands of them. They hire staff, run vehicles, equipment, pay morgages, support familys and even pay tax.
I know a company that currently hires 2 full timers, and one 2 days a week, run 4 vehicles and spends more on gear a year than it would cost to rent an office for a year. It wouldnt break 200k a year.

[ready4whatever]

Damn. I was happy with 15 bucks an hour, cause now I dont have a job

[Dave Lobster]

Lawyer fees don't seem to be a hassle for P dealers.. just ask Barry Hart...

[HenryDorsetCase]

If your having to quote so hard to get work and to many are not making enough the problem is pretty obvious and it can be fixed with my itchy trigger finger. To many lawyers. I lived in the states for a while, its a shining example of how badly a whole nation and its people can be screwed when lawyers have to much influence.

Plenty of small businesses survive on less than 175k a year, thousands of them. They hire staff, run vehicles, equipment, pay morgages, support familys and even pay tax.
I know a company that currently hires 2 full timers, and one 2 days a week, run 4 vehicles and spends more on gear a year than it would cost to rent an office for a year. It wouldnt break 200k a year.

is there a point here somewhere?