Frankly I think the police should have stayed away and let the students wear themselves out waiting for excitement which never arrived.
However, all the commentary I've read and the video footage show the police as being very restrained. If the police have to break up a mob (whether we agree with that judgement or not) we should expect them to do so. Getting a bottle in the face is no longer in the category of innocent fun.
Why not use water cannon? Rubber bullets are a bit rough but a few cannisters of tear gas would have dispersed this group of mainly middle-class kids. Pepper spray is pretty low end.
Depends upon the conviction. If it is serious the University can expell the student. This may have happened after past events.
Can make your career path a bit rocky. The Medical Association and the Law Society aren't too keen, no doubt dentistry, optometry, health sciences, maybe some branches of engineering etc would refuse or defer professional entry. Any job which requires public trust, confidence and fidelity, is going to look hard at criminal convictions.
Still, depositing dangerous litter (dropping a beer bottle) isn't going to really be a problem. Plus we now have the namby pamby Clean Slate act so after 7 years you can deny everything.
I guess what I am trying to say is that it could have been avoided long before the undie 500 even started. The initial plan was to not even go into Dunedin but have a concert outside of Dunedin in a field.
The events that have happened are disgusting, I am in no way condoning people throwing bottles at police or destroying other peoples property. I just think that it was inevitable because of a number of people not connected with the university ruining it and nothing being done to prevent the situation.
The riots happened last year, and the year before that and most likely will happen again if alternatives are not sought. Alternatives were brought up but flatly denied so meh. Immature drunk people being provoked by large police presence.
Won't make one iota of difference to them, it will all be down as high spirited student behaviour, it's expected of them! Tsk tsk, sigh!
That's the culture that causes it, each new lot has to go one better!It's called "progress"!
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should just burn the uni to the ground, then all the students would fuck off. problem solved![]()
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Well looks like the police will be charging 67 of the idiots. Should make them clean up the cities rubbish and graffiti.
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well that would finish Dunedin off, the students and the Uni pour millions into Dunedins economy and we need them. They are all paying rent in some cases a old shithole in the uni area is returning $700 to $1000 a week, they eat and drink in dunedins bars and resturants, they play sport and most senior sports and rep teams are made up of students, Dunedin basically closes down when they are away at xmas. Hundreds of tradesmen are employed doing up the old dumps they live in. saying the problem would be solved if the students fucked off is wrong....all you guys slagging off the students obviously never did anything stupid, I have attended parties where bottles were thrown, people drank to much and behaved badly when i was young and there wernt any uni students there to blame, The student area is a couple of kilometers of highly populated heavily built up area with in some cases 20 young people living in what would be a residential size section add alcahol and you have a massive party im surprised it doesnt happen every weekend
What would happen if the cops decided to turn up at a big bike rally wearing their riot gear pepperspraying people they concidered to be acting up. That wouldnt go down well, the only difference is the students were on public streets but some bike rallys are on public land. as i said in a earlier post i dont condone what went on but the cops could have handled it differently, a freind of mine was a good friend of one of the "top" cops in Dunners when he was a teenager and he was a real loose unit, perhaps he has forgotten what he got up to
being from dunedin myself, I have seen and maybe been involved in the odd "riot"
I think an easy solution would be to block the ends of the street off, not let anyone in or out, let the party blow itself out
a burning couch in the middle of the road is NOT an immediate hazzard, these guys are not stupid, they wont burn their houses down.
maybe chuck an ambo at each end too, the more onto it ones would drag out any injuries im sure.
in the hyde street 96 riot, they had a street party, then the cops turned up at one end, with the fire brigade and hoses at the other, everyone had a ball (most wound up with a bruise or two)
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