Ageing biker come-back

**Katman** · 17th September 2009, 20:29

Originally Posted by wbks

He just asked if people think that certain bikes that returning riders buy affects their crash rate. Really much of a problem?

So are you suggesting that an older returning motorcyclist should be told "Sorry sir, you can't have that cruiser you have your heart set on - you have to have this sportsbike that you can't even fold your limbs into a position to be able to sit on"?

**dpex** · 17th September 2009, 20:30

Originally Posted by jrandom

Dude on a Harley at the last MotoTT day woulda given you the learn real good, dpex.

Anytime J. Just name the place.

**FJRider** · 17th September 2009, 20:31

Originally Posted by Katman

Alright Einstein.

What the fuck is the point of wondering whether returning motorcyclists choice of bike is resulting in more accidents? They have the right to buy whatever bike they wish.

We need to figure out how to reduce accidents (across the motorcycling board) - not work out what bikes to allocate to each category of motorcyclists.

Perhaps if the returning biker gets the bike best suited for what sort of riding they will do, fewer accidents may occur. Awareness of the limitations of each type of motorcycle they may like/choose is more important than some may realise...

**Katman** · 17th September 2009, 20:34

Originally Posted by FJRider

Perhaps if the returning biker gets the bike best suited for what sort of riding they will do, fewer accidents may occur. Awareness of the limitations of each type of motorcycle they may like/choose is more important than some may realise...

No-one has the right to dictate to a returning motorcyclist what type of bike they can spend their money on.

**wbks** · 17th September 2009, 20:34

Originally Posted by Katman

So are you suggesting that an older returning motorcyclist should be told "Sorry sir, you can't have that cruiser you have your heart set on - you have to have this sportsbike that you can't even fold your limbs into a position to be able to sit on"?

Of course not, never suggested I thought that. I just said that he is speaking his opinion, and asking if anyone feels the same way.

**Katman** · 17th September 2009, 20:36

Originally Posted by wbks

Of course not, never suggested I thought that. I just said that he is speaking his opinion, and asking if anyone feels the same way.

Alright, so I'm saying he talks a load of shit.

What's your problem?

**wbks** · 17th September 2009, 20:38

Originally Posted by Katman

Alright, so I'm saying he talks a load of shit.

What's your problem?

Lol, nothing. You're trying a bit hard by suggesting he wants to restrict what kind of bikes fully licensed riders can buy

**Big Dave** · 17th September 2009, 20:39

>>It's certainly a vexing issue. But is it the riders or their selection of bike?<<

No.

**FJRider** · 17th September 2009, 20:40

Originally Posted by Katman

No-one has the right to dictate to a returning motorcyclist what type of bike they can spend their money on.

The second sentence in that quote... READ IT !!! I did not advocate dictating anything of the kind.

Informed advice at time of sale. After that ...their problem(s).

**Motu** · 17th September 2009, 20:44

To me most of the fatalities seem to be on sports bikes....

Or am I just seeing incompetence in this area?

**AD345** · 17th September 2009, 20:47

What the fuck is this ongoing obsession some people have with the way other people ride??

Followed inevitably by patronising, "we know best" suggestions carefully couched as "helpful ideas" and garnished with platitudes about rider safety and educating the born agains blah blah fucking blah.

The level of sanctimony being thrown about on this site sometimes is ungoddamnedbelievable.

Get the FUCK OVER yourselves

As a side note one fine day someone is going to address me as a "born again biker", or derivative thereof and the poor bastard will be wondering what inspired the sudden outburst of ultra violence before he gets the next syllable out

**ital916** · 17th September 2009, 20:48

Originally Posted by dpex

It's certainly a vexing issue....*snip*....stats on crashes as regards rider age and type of bike. I'd bet that would be revealing.

Look, bottom line is any two wheeled vehicle regardless of the cc rating can be dangerous for old/young/new/experienced/returning riders.

To class them into which brands are more dangerous is silly.

Also, whats with the harley examples, so returning riders like harleys. The biggest reason they would own one is they can afford one. Crieky, if i could afford a street glide or a night rod, it would be sitting in my garage in the blink of an eye.

Cruisers are a different style of riding. A returning rider, no matter what bike they choose will have to respect it and the road.

Simple as that. Harleys are no more dangeorus than sports bikes or vice versa. Know the machine, know your own riding limits and know that if you play silly buggers you could end up face first into a ditch.

Bikes are only as dangerous as their riders.