Ageing biker come-back

[Katman]

I have seen VERY few girlies ride like idiots

Is there a moron gene that women lack?

[dipshit]

Is there a moron gene that women lack?

They lack the "my dick is bigger than yours" syndrome.

[Pussy]

Is there a moron gene that women lack?

You have a VERY valid point!
All three of my recent girlie riding companions ride extremely smoothly, with awareness and courtesy

[MarkH]

They lack the "my dick is bigger than yours" syndrome.

I think that woman motorcycle riders are often safer riders than most men. The ego problems that many male riders have is definitely a factor. Women are also less likely to willfully risk their lives - men are more likely to do many things that put their lives at risk (motorsports/skydiving/bullfighting/etc).

Women are also more likely to be patient riders and to seek tuition. When I did a RRRS course there were several female learners (I think maybe 4 out of errrr, maybe 12 total?). If 1/3rd of the people on the course were female then that is much higher than the percentage of women riders in general.

Of course there are plenty of women that would not be good riders, but the ones that choose to ride are not usually from the group with a poor aptitude for it.

Is there a moron gene that women lack?

Some male riders are undoubtedly complete fuckin' munters. But many of the deaths each year are from male motorcyclists that get a thrill from taking risks, sometimes the risk taking = life taking. This isn't restricted to motorcycling of course, my mate Mark Porter got his thrills from racing cars on a track - the end result was still the same
But many people take risks knowing full well that they could lose their lives and they wouldn't be happy to be told they were not allowed to. A life without risk would be very boring!

I have also ridden with GSXR Trace and a few other female riders - they all rode more sensibly than many guys do.

[cowpatz]

So as a forty something, returning back to bikes after a 30 year absence, can someone tell me what a GOOD rider is?

A. Is it someone who rides sensibly at all times and obeys all the road rules, speed limits etc religiously?

B. Is it someone who rides competently from a technical perspective and from this is able to choose the right line, tip in point and exit position and therefore take on corners faster and perhaps break the speed limit occasionally?

Or is it somewhere in between?

In general terms would woman be more likely to be associated with option A and men with option B?

What is ridden is absolutely immaterial. It is how the machine is ridden given its capabilities and limitations that is surely the issue.

[Pussy]

Or is it somewhere in between?

In general terms would woman be more likely to be associated with option A and men with option B?

Yep, in between.
The three girlies I have mentioned ride technically AND with courtesy to other road users

[Katman]

So as a forty something, returning back to bikes after a 30 year absence, can someone tell me what a GOOD rider is?

My definition of a 'good rider' is one who desires to ride again tomorrow so therefore, rides accordingly today.

[PirateJafa]

You have a VERY valid point!
All three of my recent girlie riding companions ride extremely smoothly, with awareness and courtesy

I think that woman motorcycle riders are often safer riders than most men

...

rode more sensibly than many guys do.

I disagree.

I believe it's simply that as the ratio of female riders to male riders is so one-sided, you simply think that as "unsafe" male riders are seen around a lot more often. When I think of all the female riders I've met and/or ridden with, I do believe that the proportion that ride hard to get their "thrills" or street rep or whatever is the same as with guys - however they don't get seen around as much.

They also crow less about it on KB.

So I would agree with the statement that there are "less unsafe lady riders", but only insofar as that there are less female riders on the roads overall.

[Katman]

So I would agree with the statement that there are "less unsafe lady riders", but only insofar as that there are less female riders on the roads overall.

So what's the fatality stats of male motorcyclist versus female motorcyclist?

[Robbo]

My definition of a 'good rider' is one who desires to ride again tomorrow so therefore, rides accordingly today.

That post sums it up brilliantly and is so true.

[PirateJafa]

So what's the fatality stats of male motorcyclist versus female motorcyclist?

Why should I care?

I stated my personal opinion.

I just enjoy myself, keep myself out of harm's way, and leave it at that. I've got things of my own that need doing. The subject at hand is not a personal "crusade" of mine, so I don't feel the need to become an expert on the statistics relating to it.

[Katman]

The reality is that, while I know that there are many women motorcyclists out there I haven't heard of one single fatal motorcycle accident (attributable to the motorcyclist) involving a female rider.

What could possibly be the explanation for that?

[PirateJafa]

Space gophers.

[Katman]

Space gophers.

Methinks the reason you're unwilling to consider a viable answer stems from the fact that you realise you're actually inferior to the average woman.

Am I right?

[PirateJafa]

Methinks the reason you're unwilling to consider a viable answer stems from the fact that you realise you're actually inferior to the average woman.

Am I right?

Of course.

I wish I had tits.

It'd be so easy to get off tickets then.