Legal defence fund, help Carver!

[MSTRS:Me]

Pooh! What is that smell?

By crikey, I smell TROLL!

Nah.
What you smell is the red-hot wire about to administer the 'treatment'...

[sidecar bob]

You dont deserve to be a biker dude
Taking resposibility is one thing, harmless stunt riding where no disaster occured is INSPIRATIONAL

This was an awesome stunt and NO ONE was hurt- the bridge wssnt damaged- and he warned NON stunt riders NOT to try it

If this was captain robby in the states hed be a fuckin hero not a villian, f it was a crsuty's stunt wed be amazed at the skill and bravery-


SIDCAR BOB
Get a life and sell your bike - you should be doomed to caging it forever on you pratt

Dontion pending - on payday

A fuckin hero??? W.T.F. fighting & dying for your country's freedom once made a man a hero, Now it seems you just need to do something idiotic & not the least bit brave & brag about it loudly.
Oh yea, hes a legend, give the man a medal for bravery!!! Grow up.

[Goblin]

they need to prove what was dangerous about this or who it was a danger to. You're a skilled and competent rider, riding a specialist bike over an obstacle. The bridge ride has been done at least once before that I can remember back in the 70's. May pay to get their names, don't believe they were ever charged. You were in total control and never posed any danger to yourself. The person on the bride was part of your pedestrian safety control crew ?

Publish the exact wording of the charge.

Would seem a new sign may be required "Please do not use the Arches to cross the river"

You have admitted doing the stunt.
There is video of you afterwards, admitting doing the stunt.

Your only possibility is to plead gulity to doing the stunt but not to dangerous charges. The time of day would have helped ensure a lack of public around, hence making a safer environment.

I doubt there is a warning sign, saying "no riding motorbikes over the arches" or something like that. I would guess that a sign saying "no pedestrians / no walking over the arches" or similar exists?
You did not walk over the bridge, so complied with that requirement...

"Get a lawyer son. Better get ya'self a real good one..." (as the song goes).

Don't the Mormons rally together when one of their flock is in financial strife

I think these posts sum it up. No point pleading not guilty with all the evidence you did it but proving it wasn't dangerous might get you off.
Good luck!

[Leyton]

Yeah I will flick you a $20 next payday if things are looking squared up in the finance department

[Morcs]

Reference Land Transport Act 1998 No 110
The "on a road" bit was amended out in 2005.

(2) A person may not drive a motor vehicle, or cause a motor vehicle to be driven, at a speed or in a manner which, having regard to all the circumstances, is or might be dangerous to the public or to a person.

Definitely plead not guilty. However IMHO a better defense (than I didn't do it) would be to show that in the circumstances you identified the risks then mitigated them effectively. Training, preparation, weather, equipment, your experience and any safety precautions taken on the day might swing it. Was this in fact dangerous or a carefully planned and executed stunt?

Agree with your comment.

As the the legislation, there was no speed involved, and what manner? he rode in a straight line at about 5kph.

[Krayy]

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

"Mormon folklore is a body of expressive culture unique to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) and its members. It includes tales, oral history, popular beliefs, customs, music, stunts, jokes, and other traditions.

Wilson said Mormon folktales often affirm the group’s beliefs that people doing the Lord's work may receive divine protection. "It's a rhetorical strategy designed to persuade the audience to accept a certain point of view or to follow a certain course of action,"

In other words...God told me to do it!! Hell it works as a defense for drowning someone who's been possessed.

[Ronin]

Agree with your comment.

As the the legislation, there was no speed involved, and what manner? he rode in a straight line at about 5kph.

Or in a manner is the key bit here.

[Coldrider]

Charge should be using an unavailable lane.......
The problem it is a place that is accessible to the public.

[Swoop]

Have you considered approaching the Mormon church?
After spreading the word via the use of motorcyckes, surely they would be happy to pass the plate around to assist with $$'s?

It works for bishop tamaki when he needs a new harley-davidson or a new yacht.

[klingon]

Did he do the 'stunt'? - Yes
Did he know it was illegal when he did it? - Yes
Did he then brag about it (repeatedly) in public? - Yes

I suspect if he had just kept quiet about it, he wouldn't have been prosecuted. It's the repeated bragging and drawing attention to himself that has been his downfall.

If someone is wrongly accused of doing something then I will fully support their right to defend themselves in court, and as a taxpayer I am even prepared to fund the process to ensure justice is done.

When someone did the thing they are accused of doing, and brags about it repeatedly, I resent them wasting everyone's time by then pretending they didn't do it and playing (expensive) silly games with the system.

There are plenty of people out there who genuinely need our help and are suffering hardship through no fault of their own. Carver is the last person I will be giving money to.

[Conquiztador]

Carver has balls. Truly.

BUT if he keeps on getting on the wrong side of the law it will restrict his chances to make a living outta it. And travel doing it.

I think it is better to learn from this for next time:
- Make sure you have the OK to do it.
- Make sure there is St Johns (or someone else) on site just in case...
- Get the media involved before it happens so you get the publicity you deserve. (There is gold in those hills son...)
- Have your lawyer sorted BEFORE you do these stunts.

If you keep on doing these stunts w/o having stuff in place, you are no better then any other hooligan/boyracer/idiot who rides at 200k/h down a residental street and then brags about it.

If you are gonna do this stuff and get respect for it, do it properly. Or take the consequences.

I admire you for having the balls to do this stunt. But that is where it stops. Learn from this and be more professional about it next time.

No $$'s from me. There is currently a small boy and a young mum who needs my spare $$'s much more.

[FROSTY:Me]

This is a troll thread. OMG tell me it is.
Just to clear up a bit of BS thats going around.
The "heros" you lot are refering to . Basejumpers,ghost rider,Bunjy jumpers,stunt riders etc. No matter WHERE in the world they are if they dont get it cleared by the local powers that be they face procecution.
They do their thing knowing full well this may happen.
You don't think base jumpers have getaway cars for no reason do ya?
I mean honestly Carver diddn't think he would get to break a bunch of local laws and NOT face possible prosecution.
Now before people start getting high and mighty I'm NOT saying the stunt wasn't cool just that theres a time to pay the piper
If a fund is being set up I'd suggest it be for the poor bastards that actually genuinely did nothing wrong except to chose the wrong people to ride with and are out to loose their licences and jobs as a result.

[Swoop]

Did he know it was illegal when he did it? - Yes

Well, this might be a grey area. What knowledge did he have that it is, in fact, illegal? Signs saying "do not do xyz"?

Risky? - Yes.
Common sense not to do something (should I jump off that cliff?)? - Possibly.
A "challenge" to achieve something potentially not attempted previously? - Yes.
Illegal to ride over the arches on a motorcycle? - Hmm. According to whom, or what rules? How are these (possible) "rules" promulgated?

[Morcs]

Well, this might be a grey area. What knowledge did he have that it is, in fact, illegal? Signs saying "do not do xyz"?

Risky? - Yes.
Common sense not to do something (should I jump off that cliff?)? - Possibly.
A "challenge" to achieve something potentially not attempted previously? - Yes.
Illegal to ride over the arches on a motorcycle? - Hmm. According to whom, or what rules? How are these (possible) "rules" promulgated?

Plus, a non road legal bike riding over an obstacle that isnt a road.
Not sure how you can be suspended from riding on the road for that... what if it had been a push bike?

[Cr1MiNaL]

Don't the Mormons rally together when one of their flock is in financial strife

I would have thought so but apparently not (yet). You really get a sense of whose got your back are when you are in strife, everyones your mate when things are going well for you. I personally am a lot better off with that knowledge.

Perhaps you could plead religion. Say I had a vision in my dreams and this is what God asked me to do, I mean that is the Mormon way is it not!

If that fails you could plead INSANITY