Two-stroke website, worth a look

[charles23]

how am i shot down? i just said it depends on the track.

revert your earlier comments, blah blah blah

[Armitage Shanks]

In NZ the 250 2t's and 4t's run together, the first year 9 out of 10 were 250F's in the finish, (2 riders started out on 250's 2t's but swapeed to 250F's before the end, only Shayne King was in teh top 10 on a 2 smoker, in the second year it was the same deal, only Dk was in the top 10 on a 2 smoker,

in the US amatuer racing, a 250 2t can run in either the 250 class, or the 450 class, Malcolm Stewart (James's little brother) ran a 250 2t in the 450 class to some top 3 finishers in 08, and a couple of guys got top 10;s in the 250 classes this year,

a STD 250F puts out around 35 hp at the rear wheel, where a std 250 2t about 43-45, but the 250F has a much wider powerband and alot more torque off the bottom, very few people can ride a 250 2t quicker around a race track for 20 minutes than a 250F,

Good call, Scott4 .....and I bet they could'nt punt a 500 2t any faster round a track, problem with the big girls is cornering , come to a corner fast and you have to think about the mass of the huge crank spinning fast which inhibits you're ability to corner fast ( Centrifugal Issues ). Once you're round the corner though, click 2nd gear and you're gone Baaaarp !...Big problem is you have the next corner to worry about if you're riding a 500 ...with over 65 HP at the crank and 100kg.

Then comes the wheelspin and wheely problem, but ....as someone said before, who cares what you ride ...It's all about fun ........






Good

[yokel]

pretty much the only reason we have these 4 stroke mx bikes is the displacement rules (loophole) back in the day, with some hindsight it should have been changed to stop these loud,heavy and expensive bikes to get a foot hold.
Instead we got all this BS about emissions and what not and 4 strokes are the way to go.

I tried the 4 stroke thing, mainly because I couldnt be arsed mixing gas, not one of my best life choices lol.
also got sucked in with all that easy to ride power, now I know better.

I remember a simpler time when all there was were the 125s and 250s ( sorry 500s were before my time)

[green machine]

I tried the 4 stroke thing, manly because I couldnt be arsed mixing gas, not one of my best life choices lol.
also got sucked in with all that easy to ride power, now I know better.

Like i said previously........Groundhog day,another 2 stroker bagging 4 strokes

[Armitage Shanks]

Like i said previously........Groundhog day,another 2 stroker bagging 4 strokes

No bagging from me mate, it's a shame though that there's not many 500's around anymore so it's all words etc.

Nice to have a squirt on Sunday after many months in the shed though, KX500 ( 04 ) , top gear, roll on the throttle and the wheel heads for the sky at over 100 kmh. Far out ...been a while , crazy power ...= what a rush

[green machine]

No bagging from me mate, it's a shame though that there's not many 500's around anymore so it's all words etc.

Nice to have a squirt on Sunday after many months in the shed though, KX500 ( 04 ) , top gear, roll on the throttle and the wheel heads for the sky at over 100 kmh. Far out ...been a while , crazy power ...= what a rush

Haha,yes that would be a rush.....

[Armitage Shanks]

Haha,yes that would be a rush.....

Cheers Green and here's a pic of my '04 ...in '04 ...

[green machine]

Nice one mate......what a Beast(the bike i mean)i admit to being a little biased though

[yokel]

Like i said previously........Groundhog day,another 2 stroker bagging 4 strokes

I dont mind the bikes them selfs, and the people that ride them are OK I guess??

Its just the impact they have on the sport thats gets me all revved up.
the first thing is they are loud and that gets unwanted attention from people that dont like loud things so puts pressure on riding areas.
and while the 4 strokes are great for new people to ride( I'm of the opinion that 4ts dumbs down the riding skill some what and thats what the manufactures like about them) but to own one is different story, someone new will need lots of cash or be an instant expert bike mechanic.

[Armitage Shanks]

Nice one mate......what a Beast(the bike i mean)i admit to being a little biased though

Thanks Mate, that pic was taken when the big KX was brand new, Zero Hours and I was about to have the first ride ..Had the PC Pipe fitted off my old '97 KX500 . Now running a Gnarly Pipe and V-Force Reed kit along with the Moose frame guards, Answer bars and etc, ...should be like close to 70 Hp's crank now and still weighs around 100kg dry. Take it easy ....

[yokel]

Well was thinking how cool my old wr 500 was and started to have bad thoughts about putting an old yz 490/wr 500 motor in a new frame and then come across this! holy shit yeah!

weight is 97kgs

back in the day I use to think it was cool to see XR's motors shoe horned in to 2 stroke MX frames, funny how things have turned

[Armitage Shanks]

Well was thinking how cool my old wr 500 was and started to have bad thoughts about putting an old yz 490/wr 500 motor in a new frame and then come across this! holy shit yeah!

weight is 97kgs

back in the day I use to think it was cool to see XR's motors shoe horned in to 2 stroke MX frames, funny how things have turned

Cool pics Yokel...had a WR500 myself for a year or so ...white with blue graphics, the MK2 model, last one made, traded it on a new KX5 in '97 and.....from memory got around $4K for it and the KX was , new, around $8500 ...best trade I ever did...