Sidecar racing in New Zealand

[scrivy]

Completely agree about the costs, and see what your saying about the 3 rounds without having to go north.

Prehaps should look at enforcing a rule like they have in the cross country champs?...

The sidecar association had an AGM last year that had a vote that was passed and minuted, stating everyone should abide by the vote for the amount of rounds we will do down south this year. The amount wanted was 2 rounds only. This was told to MNZ at their conference back in May, and in a letter to MNZ also.
So a few riders are now taking it upon themselves to destroy what the majority voted on, by talking directly to MNZ on their own behalf. Really selfish if you ask me.

[rat]

The sidecar association had an AGM last year that had a vote that was passed and minuted, stating everyone should abide by the vote for the amount of rounds we will do down south this year. The amount wanted was 2 rounds only. This was told to MNZ at their conference back in May, and in a letter to MNZ also.
So a few riders are now taking it upon themselves to destroy what the majority voted on, by talking directly to MNZ on their own behalf. Really selfish if you ask me.

Yes the minority have stuffed it for the majority.
So much for democray.

[rat]

Completely agree about the costs, and see what your saying about the 3 rounds without having to go north.

Prehaps should look at enforcing a rule like they have in the cross country champs?...

Whats the cross country rule Shorty?

[rat]

Blonde monent, Thanks For the correction Bob.

[sidecar bob]

Yes the minority have stuffed it for the majority.
So much for democray.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1129228601
Heres a link to the last post made by the president of MNZ.
By the tone of his post he clearly he believes in democracy.
It may be worth approaching him to set things right.

[Kickaha]

Ok I'll add to the shitfight

I have just found out the MNZ Dip Shits have gone against the Sidecar racing associations vote on the ammount of meetings they will attend this coming race season, From Two south Island Rounds to Three.

Yeah awesome isn't it, now when was this vote held, did anyone ask any members down (thats if there are any)here as no one here knew anything about it, but then I guess knowing how they would vote down here they wouldn't bother

Well, I guess that rules me out then. I simply can't get 3 weeks off work in the busiest months, more importantly, neither can sidecar Bob. That's why sidecars don't usually do 3 rounds - cause there's more of us in a team than solos. Trying to logistically get the same time off together each year is near impossible!

I guess I may as well not do the north island rounds then either............

Bugger.....

Both self employed and can't organise time off together? it really is true you can't organise your arse from your elbow :whistle

Bullshit you don't need anywhere near 3 weeks off work, tosser (love you really )

Great idea, but we have 3 or 4 rouge members that have been pushing their own barrow with MNZ for their own gain.
There is a bit of in fighting to be had on this matter

A few more than 2-3 and some of us haven't bothered joining the NZSRA this year because of the constant whinging coming from that direction so we are under no obligation to follow their direction

The problem is that too many sidecar competitors are financially over comitted & on the bones of their arses, thats why they want three rounds down south, so they can get three runs & not have to go north.

I don't think thats it at all,it's more that some of them would like to do a full NZ championship and not just 80% of one

We already get 6-7 rounds during the year if we want them,so three runs doesn't matter that much to us, unlike you lot who get pretty much nothing

The sidecar association had an AGM last year that had a vote that was passed and minuted, stating everyone should abide by the vote for the amount of rounds we will do down south this year. The amount wanted was 2 rounds only. This was told to MNZ at their conference back in May, and in a letter to MNZ also.
So a few riders are now taking it upon themselves to destroy what the majority voted on, by talking directly to MNZ on their own behalf. Really selfish if you ask me.

An AGM last year and voting at it should have only affected the season just gone and not every season after that

If only those present at the agm could vote on it then of course it would be in favour of only 2 rounds, and of course lets always hold the agm in the North to make it easy to get the vote the way we want it, and rather than ringing the other members and asking them their opinion as well we wont bother because it makes it easier to get it the way we want it even though thats what used to be done

How about we hold the agm down here next year and see what the vote is? seeing as the majority of NZ Sidecar racing is held down here anyway

What's fucking sidecar racing in NZ is the general apathy of it's members, no club racing during the year because no one can be fucked organising anything and then whinging because all of a sudden there's to much, fucking boo hoo, the only sidecar people in the North with any clues seen to be the classic/post classic boys

RE 3 weeks off work
lets check out a scenario

Scrivy sucks my cock at Taupo(as he so often does, it's only gay if you are the giver) and says how bout driving all my gear south after TTRS, so I drive it back to Chch for the fat poofta and he flys down Friday night before Ruapuna (booking ahead to get cheap flights) then he flys out Sunday night, $253 per person for flights

Next week I drive all his shit to Invergiggle and he flys in Friday night and I make him walk from the airport cause I cant be fucked picking him up, again he flies out Sunday night $467 per person for flights

I drive his shit to Christchurch and he flies in Friday night and drives to levels (after finding in his gear in the impound yard because I illegally parked it)
after Levels he drives home, $113 one way for the flight in

The same could happen for just about anyone, yes the flights will cost a bit but not if you book far enough ahead so far thats $883 in flights and no more than 5 days off depending on what time and day you fly in, because sometimes it works out better to fly out Monday mornings and fly in Saturday mornings and maybe he'd drive his own shit back to Chch from Invergiggle and get cheaper flights

So about $1800 for two, although it can probably be done even cheaper keeping an eye on grab a seat or any specials

So how does that balance out against having 3 weeks off and paying food, accommodation, hookers etc? not much more expensive I would think

Oh yea for the porpoise of this exercise Scurvy flew out of Rotavegas, Welly and Orcland guys could probably do it even cheaper and flying in and out of Invergiggle is the real killer

[sidecar bob]

Ahh, but theres two sidecars two hot chicks, a fat bastard & me. So that doubles everything.

[Kickaha]

Ahh, but theres two sidecars two hot chicks, a fat bastard & me. So that doubles everything.

Easy solved, you and fat bastard stay at home and you just send the hot chicks you don't even have to worry abut sending the sidecars

[sidecar bob]

But if I leave my pink sidecar at home how am I going to kick your big white arse?!
Tracey

[Kickaha]

But if I leave my pink sidecar at home how am I going to kick your big white arse?!
Tracey

Can't see that happening

I want an infraction for Sidecarblob letting Tracey use his login, it is against the site rules and he should be punished (and not just by Tracey)

[sidecar bob]

Can't see that happening

I want an infraction for Sidecarblob letting Tracey use his login, it is against the site rules and he should be punished (and not just by Tracey)

Infraction? is that anything like a rim job?? Hope so!!!

[diesel pig]

Why not run sidecars at all five nats and institute a rule requiring all sidecar racers to drop the points from there worse nats meeting (E.G. The one they score the least points at.) That way the racers who only do four nats can drop the meeting they did not attend and the racers who do all five nats would drop the meeting that went shithouse for them (like a DNF or just finish lower down the order than there other nats)this would just not suit the pig islanders that only want to do two of the three mainland nats meetings but mainland racers could also do all three mainland nats and then cherrypick one of the two pig island meets they want to drag there sidecars to.

[Kickaha]

Why not run sidecars at all five nats and institute a rule requiring all sidecar racers to drop the points from there worse nats meeting (E.G. The one they score the least points at.) That way the racers who only do four nats can drop the meeting they did not attend and the racers who do all five nats would drop the meeting that went shithouse for them (like a DNF or just finish lower down the order than there other nats)this would just not suit the pig islanders that only want to do two of the three mainland nats meetings but mainland racers could also do all three mainland nats and then cherrypick one of the two pig island meets they want to drag there sidecars to.

I once thought that would be a good idea, but the reality is it would simply mean we would be doing a 4 round series as we wouldn't have the minimum numbers for at least one round, it also leave the club needing to fill a gap in the grid possibly at short notice and means they can't really advertise what classes will be there

I don't think 5 rounds is quite as much of a problem as some people are making out, it just requires a bit more forward planning than people seem able to do

Although I reckon a big part of the problem is simply the scheduling of so many rounds over such a short time, run the SI rounds in November and the NI either before or after Paeroa

[rat]

Gez Kick were you saying something...
I fell asleep trying to read all of your dribble

You just don't get it do you.
You either have not been around sidecars that long or you can't remember back that far.
History never repeats, Insert Tui Ad here.

Chris and Scrivy draged the association back from the brink of being kicked out of MNZ several years ago, and we are headed down that same path.

Do you want some glasses, as you are being very short sighted.

[sidecar bob]

Gez Kick were you saying something...
I fell asleep trying to read all of your dribble

You just don't get it do you.
You either have not been around sidecars that long or you can't remember back that far.
History never repeats, Insert Tui Ad here.

Chris and Scrivy draged the association back from the brink of being kicked out of MNZ several years ago, and we are headed down that same path.

Do you want some glasses, as you are very short sighted.

When its all fucked & the big men of the sport have wandered off to conquer the world at croquet & lawn bowls, it will be the same small group of individuals with a passion for the sport that will once again rescue it from the brink of disaster, which by my rekoning isint too far off.